Posted on 07/21/2024 2:25:25 PM PDT by wac3rd
I spoke with my wife's aunt today who is visiting us in Texas from Washington State. For the record, she is a kind, understanding and great aunt to my family but when the topic flipped to the Biden resignation, a few things came out about the Left Wing mind.
The immediate things that were said were:
Trump cut taxes for the rich Citizens United case was the first time crony capitalism came into existence She wants Kamala because she really, really wants a female President. She likes Kamala OK, no qualms about her ability Trump had a sharp shooter to get sympathy (injure not kill) Canada has great healthcare Immigration isn't a big deal She thinks Adam Schiff should run for President, he's smart with good ideas and reaches across the aisle
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You’ve gotta hear ‘em as imports in much of Texas, but we’re surrounded by them up here in the Northeast.
Trump cut taxes for the rich?
I make 60k year........ I’m rich?...........
There is one other factor—where you sit can determine where you stand.
The best example I saw of that was my grandfather and his brother (my great uncle).
Grandpa owned a small business and he was very conservative.
Great Uncle was a Professor at Cornell and he was a crazy leftist.
Both fit into the culture that surrounded them.
The interesting question is—if they had miraculously switched jobs would they have switched political opinions?
the same people become conservative after being robbed
Media/Deep State coup. I have no doubt the corrupt parts of Washington DC was up to their necks in trying to pump up Watergate into an enormous scandal.
I always think of Nixon when I see what they tried to do to Trump while he was in office. SAME EXACT TYPE OF PEOPLE then as now.
Correct. I have been calling it a "mediacracy" for years.
After Watergate it became clear those in control of the media were the real power in the USA.
From roughly 1934 to 1960, the Progressive ideology came to dominate 95% or more of the media in the USA. With Watergate, (perhaps McCarthy before that) many came to realize their power.
From 1960 to 1994 they did immense damage to the USA culture and political structure.
From 1994 to present, technology and a growing realization of the problem has created a backlash. With President Trump and movement he represents, there is a chance to restore much Constitutional government.
You want your narrative, not their narrative, to reach the masses.
This is exactly right.
God forbid that we should be given the truth rather than brainwashing.
The only solution is "equal time." Our side needs to control half the air time of every major new organization. The Democrats already control all of it.
The problem “our side” has is the Neocons who want to fight a five front war against Russia, China, Iran, North Korea and a country to be named later all at the same time.
With friends like that who needs enemies.
You are correct. It is clear the CIA was involved, at a minimum. The intelligence agencies and the media are intertwined at the top.
Kamala is looking pretty bad lately. She could be a Maxine Waters Twin.
I do believe in the existence of "contrarians." People who don't know what they think until they find out what most people think, just so they can be against it.
I tend to have contrarian instincts. If I see a large majority of people claiming something is "thus". I will ask myself, "Is it really "thus", or should I look for an alternate explanation?"
I tend to be devil's advocate a lot.
The interesting question is—if they had miraculously switched jobs would they have switched political opinions?
I believe so. Not only would the experiences steer them differently, the people they are surrounded with would also steer them differently.
I was always a conservative but I went to a well known leftist prep school and college.
I did have a support group of like minded peers in those places, however.
It was our “dark night of the soul” as we were badly outnumbered—a lot of stress for politically active young people.
By surviving it I became even a stronger conservative—with zero tolerance for leftist craziness and propaganda.
I think what shaped my political views were not politics itself but an attitude towards the outside world. I never believed what people said. I only believed what I confirm with my own real world experience. That is just my temperament.
Conservatives tended to tell the truth. Liberals tended to lie and I would catch them lying—and so that was that.
From roughly 1934 to 1960, the Progressive ideology came to dominate 95% or more of the media in the USA. With Watergate, (perhaps McCarthy before that) many came to realize their power.
From 1960 to 1994 they did immense damage to the USA culture and political structure. From 1994 to present, technology and a growing realization of the problem has created a backlash. With President Trump and movement he represents, there is a chance to restore much Constitutional government.
This is all correct, but I think it extends further back in time then you have indicated. We all remember "Yellow Journalism".(1898) I think it goes back further than that.
I think there is a reason Lincoln sent troops to seize newspapers and arrest all their employees. Controlling the narrative suppresses dissent and yields power for the people who can control the media.
Horace Greeley, who had been vocal about allowing the South to go in peace, quickly flipped his "opinion" after he saw what was happening to people who dissented from the official government opinion.
I think a corporate/government cartel of influence are the real controllers of the media. The New York Times and the Washington Post are just government voice boxes.
I think this condition has persisted in the US since around the 1820s.
Something’s wrong with these people. It’s like they’re missing synapse connections in their brains.
“I think there is a reason Lincoln sent troops to seize newspapers and arrest all their employees.”
Great example.
There were a lot of southern sympathizers or anti-war folks in the north—in every state—and that was a big problem for Lincoln. They were not a majority but they were certainly capable of sabotaging the war effort by both direct or indirect means.
Censorship kept them isolated—just like today’s censorship and canceling and banning tries to keep us contained.
Obviously censorship was more effective when newspapers were the primary means of mass communication.
I must admit, this observation that people (who I otherwise would greatly respect in all other aspects) can appear so blazingly stupid in political matters, is one that has been a puzzle for my entire life (or at least since the Democrats have gone so far left that if JFK ran today, he would not make into public office as a Democrat)
They aren’t stupid (these people I know) far from it. I suspect there is a part of them that simply stopped maturing at the age of 14.
I remember being in Junior High and wondering why the government didn’t just give people money every month. Why do people have to be poor? The government could obviously spare the money...why not?
Granted, I had bigger problems at that time (to me) so cogitating on this was not the first thing I was preoccupied with.
But as I gained life experience, I realized (just using this example) that giving people money as a method to “pick them up” is a fundamentally cruel approach, because you you yourself begin to understand the value of work, and how important it is to be able to provide for yourself, knowing that you have given something important such as your brainpower, time, or physical effort, and they deemed it worthwhile to give you money for doing it.
Then later, you grasp how destructive that is to a society, to do that, and realize it dehumanizes and destroys much that is good in human beings.
And eventually, you understand from a monetary perspective how corrosive and terrible that is, devaluing a currency because it it printed to give to people who aren’t producing anything of value for it simply means there are more dollars around chasing the same number of goods.
All this never came to me in a flash at the age of 18. I learned it piece by piece as I matured as a person.
I feel that Leftists have never traveled this journey of maturity when it comes to issues such as the one I provided in this one example. They just thought at the age of 14 that something was a good idea, and never went past that.
There are no more undecided voters. Now it is all about enthusiasm.
Forgive me, no offense intended but your aunt seems to be the living embodiment of my tagline.
My youngest brother is a rabid anti-Trumper and I haven’t spoken to him in six years.
Now I know how they felt in 1861.
Talk about the weather instead. If it becomes political and they talk about global warming, change the subject and talk about the recent Super Bowl instead.
Ugh. That is an unpleasant thought. Maxine Waters has no redeeming value to this country. She’ll probably last another 10 years as a “government servant”, still showing up vote for random government-sponsored outrages against this country.
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