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Oops! Natrona County [WY] Maintained Rural Road For Years, But Never Owned It
Cowboy State Daily ^ | June 26, 2024 | Dale Killingbeck

Posted on 06/27/2024 12:32:33 PM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 06/27/2024 12:32:33 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

You mean there are other Dem bureaucrats in Wyoming other than Lizzy?


2 posted on 06/27/2024 12:34:38 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Red Badger

Masterson’s Tuesday filing asked the court to deny the county’s motions for a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction and award his clients their attorney fees and costs.

He told the judge that his clients just want to solve the issue.

“I think it can be solved,” he said, adding that, “This is not the way to do it.”


yes, why does govt always go to legal, instead of some common sense negotiation.

Have a local situation. City lost the ruling and decided to appeal, rather than sit and talk about the issue.


3 posted on 06/27/2024 12:42:15 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Red Badger

Just wait until the water rights issues emerge.


4 posted on 06/27/2024 12:42:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

Be careful what you pray for...


5 posted on 06/27/2024 12:56:43 PM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: Red Badger

“The couple bought the property along the road in September 2023.”

Chit can happen when the non-locals show up with Buck$.

I’d go with annual rent from the BLM. Equal to my annual Income Taxes.


6 posted on 06/27/2024 12:57:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

Happens all the time in west Texas.

DOT cut a road though my ranch one time going nowhere and without anything resembling a right of way. Notified them immediately, but they didn’t stop. Finally had to sue. At the injunction hearing they said “oops my bad”.

I use it now to land my plane.


7 posted on 06/27/2024 12:59:25 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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Thanks for the FREE airstrip, guys!..............


8 posted on 06/27/2024 1:00:13 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: MeanWestTexan

On my rural property in CT the state started putting up “State Forest” signs.

I told them to either produce the surveys proving it was their land or I go to court.

In about a week one of their senior guys apologized and ordered the signs taken down.


9 posted on 06/27/2024 1:03:10 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“yes, why does govt always go to legal, instead of some common sense negotiation.”

Probably because there is no one in government empowered to make a deal. They always go to the court because the judge can make a deal and then there’s no one to blame if the voters don’t like the deal. We’ve been a litigious society since before the Revolutionary War.

I read most of the article and didn’t see immanent domain or seizure for public use. Those are the go-to’s in cases like this. Also, at least where I live, if you maintain property for a certain period then you own it. If I get caught mowing the county’s property adjacent to mine, I’d get a cease-and-desist letter pronto.


10 posted on 06/27/2024 1:04:47 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: MeanWestTexan

Do you live next to the infamous Van Horn speed trap? I was in a car with 5 other college students when we got pulled over in 1987 in VanHorn. I was the only one in the car smart enough to slip on my seatbelt before the officer got to the car and therefor was the only one not to get a ticket. The officer “guided” our car to the nearest mailbox for my 5 friends to deposit their fine payments or they could spend the night in jail.


11 posted on 06/27/2024 1:06:25 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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“Near” by west Texas standards, but I think that is 250 miles away.

Van Horn is basically El Paso.

I’m Permian Basic area.


12 posted on 06/27/2024 2:05:54 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: Red Badger

Might depend on the state. Is nome states:

If a roadway is used, even in the middle of a property, and there is no sign “Right to pass revokable at any time”, and if the road is maintained with eqipmenmt, that may make it a passageway that cannot be blocked.


13 posted on 06/27/2024 2:06:30 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT. And I am generally full of /S)
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Dang. Is this possible? “She also told the court the county earlier this month initiated a process of establishing the road through “prescription” or “adverse possession.” Governments can be abusive but they think they can claim “squatters rights”? Of course the negated that by saying the installed gates with the owner’s permission.

If they own it why did they need permission?


14 posted on 06/27/2024 2:09:57 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Red Badger

It certainly sounds like there is an easement. Once people have been using a road for 25 years or so, an easement exists.


15 posted on 06/27/2024 2:14:22 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (לעזאזל עם חמאס)
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To: Red Badger

That’s a lot of money the owners owe the country for maintaining their road for years.


16 posted on 06/27/2024 2:22:30 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Paladin2

” “The couple bought the property along the road in September 2023.”
Chit can happen when the non-locals show up with Buck$.
I’d go with annual rent from the BLM. Equal to my annual Income Taxes.”

I bet they knew they would own this road because it would show up on the survey and title search. Now they are very politely going to squeeze the county for some of their purchase cost.

I did something similar. Bought a commercial property that the owner assumed gave three other adjacent owners esements across the property he was selling. He had it bassackwards. His property had easements across theirs but they did not have easements across his. When I got the property and already knowing this, Hardee’s had to pay up or lose access to their drive through.


17 posted on 06/27/2024 2:28:09 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Only if they did so openly and without permission, Doesn’t seem to be the case here since the county asked permission to install gates.


18 posted on 06/27/2024 2:29:50 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: ifinnegan

Nope. You can build on my property without permission and I owe you nothing.


19 posted on 06/27/2024 2:32:11 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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Not if you don’t tell them not to and use what they’ve done.


20 posted on 06/27/2024 3:05:02 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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