Posted on 06/22/2024 6:49:34 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
If Minnesota wants to reach its goal of net-zero carbon emissions by 2050, the state must rapidly cut greenhouse gas emissions from buildings, a sector where pollution is still on the rise.
A path to phasing out building emissions exists, according to a new report commissioned by Clean Heat Minnesota, a diverse group of energy experts, cities, community service organizations, and consumer advocates.
The report, called the Minnesota Building Decarbonization Analysis, shows that billions of dollars in investments and dedicated planning will be needed to help the state hit its climate targets. But doing so is possible, and best accomplished through mass electrification, the report found.
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Heat Pumps work down to outside temps in the 30s. Not sub-zero like in Minnesota at times
H/P great for Florida
Idiots
I had one in North Carolina. I was freezing. And that was on the Outer Banks.
This doesn’t sound like a good idea.
“But doing so is possible, and best accomplished through mass electrification, the report found.”
And just where is all this clean electricity going to come from?
Well, there are going to be a lot of frozen Minnesotans if this takes place. I guess having a lot of dead people should help “climate change,” even though it is quite macabre to do it that way.
Concepts like this (”Everyone needs a heat pump”) shows how abjectly stupid some of these people are. Probably majored in transgender studies. 🙄
It’s probably fine, for northern states to use to keep their homes cooler. But it’s not going to work in winter.
“Heat pumps are ‘cheapest, healthiest’ way to meet Minnesota’s climate goals, local coalition says”
Perhaps they don’t know that Minnesota get cold in winter, REALLY, REALLY, COLD, and that heat pumps don’t work in that weather?
Here in Texas, one can argue that heat pumps can be practical*, as most of our winter weather is in their normal operating range. But Minnesota - SPARE ME.
*as to whether they’re economic, that obviously depends on the price of fuel versus the cost of power...and power has gone up about 13% a year in Texas since the Globalists took over DC in 2021.
I work in a large building where they renovated a storage space to offices. They installed heat pumps in the renovated space, but the rest of the building still has natural gas forced air or in-floor heat. On the same campus we have a small building where they replaced a early 1990s gas forced air system with heat pumps.
Both are similar vintage and construction. The heat pump works fine for that extra bootin the building with the existing gas heat as doors go between both spaces. However, in the other building we still have a few portable electric heaters as they just can’t keep up, especially in the exterior rooms with windows or doors. They work fine down to the upper 30s then you start to notice the issues.
Going out into the frozen woods and freezing to death is the best way to meet Climate Objectives in Minn.
Unless one is an Illegal.
Not to worry. They'll probably die from eating bugs long before they freeze to death.
Heat pumps work well in many areas, but they’re not going to cure an imaginary climate crisis.
“As long as your house is properly air-sealed and insulated, an air-source heat pump can perform well beyond temperatures of -13 degrees Fahrenheit! Some newer models can handle temps as low as -22 degrees. If you live in extreme cold, you may need to use supplemental heat, or what’s called a dual-fuel system (or consider switching to a ground-source heat pump).”
https://sealed.com/resources/winter-heat-pump/
I just made a similar comment. The large building I normally work in has gas forced air and radiant floor heat. They renovated a big storage area to offices and used mini-splits and they work fine as they connect to the gas fired heat areas as a supplemental heat, even in the low 20’s.
The smaller building got converted to heat-pumps when the 1990s furnace died. Works fine to the upper 30s. Almost All the exterior rooms have some portable electric heater for the cold days. They can’t keep up, especially if you have to open the door often.
In theory on paper. In practice, not so much.
“Oilon is the oldest ground source heat pump manufacturer in Finland.”
“In a borehole, for example, water temperature remains at a few degrees Celsius throughout the year. This keeps the heat pump’s coefficient of performance at a steady, high level even at the harshest winter conditions.”
https://oilon.com/en-gb/products-gb/ground-source-heat-pumps/
Heat pumps in Minnersoda.
"The Incredible Mouth-Breathing Left"
Heat pumps don’t really work very well north of Mobile,AL.
Just sayin
Not that my experience is statistically significant, but I have had a heat pump, and it had the reliability of a Yugo. Those that I have known who also had heat pumps have a similar experience. And, my math and engineering background leads me to come to the conclusion that we’re not getting the cream of the crop with regards to climate “research”.
It not whether they can operate when it’s cold, but more whether they can operate EFFICIENTLY when could, plus, of course, the purchase price for these types of heat pumps. From what I can see, when very cold they’re better than resistance heating, but not by much, when temperatures are mild, they do much better. Even the government goal of 1.5 to 2.0 in COP means that the government knew there were limits, since ANY heat pump, even the cheapest, easily gets 3.0 or higher during their designed-for temperatures, roughly 45-50F.
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