Posted on 06/19/2024 7:01:22 AM PDT by ksm1
I've been on FR since the Bush years, first as a lurker and then more active during Obama and the initial Tea Party movement. Throughout that time, there always has been active and for the most part respectful debate on FR, that sometimes got a bit heated but we all basically wanted the same thing for the country, even if it meant different ways to get there.
With the Trump years, I was skeptical of Trump at first in 2016 since he was an unknown, but then he won me over when he was actually President. You can find my posts from his years in office where I defended him. That said - there was enough left on the table, like a number of bad hires who kept undermining him, that I wanted to see a competitive primary and a candid discussion on both his record and what would be different this time around if he gets the nod.
Well that's when things got weird. We never had that discussion. It just became a yelling match, and if I wanted to do that, I'd just go join those Palestine weirdos on college campuses. No thanks.
Guys, Bob Good had an excellent 100% conservative voting record. Trump primaried him for his one and only crime which was endorsing DeSantis, even though after the primary, Bob Good came to visit Trump during his trial in NYC.
This isn't giving me any confidence that Trump has learned from his mistakes of bad hires and bad endorsements. We should have completely dominated the 2022 midterms but a number of bad endorsements sabotaged us. Dr. Oz? Seriously? Yes Arizona had some shady things with their election, but there were a bunch of other cases where Trump endorsed a weak candidate - OR, he's been backing people who DO win and then vote RINO when it counts. We can't keep saying "we want better people in Congress" and then let things like this slide.
Why I care: the grassroots activist right has always played an important role. I saw during the Bush years on FR that we'd organize campaigns to write letters to Congress to push for our values. Same during the Obama years, which is how we prevented Obama from doing a lot of gun grabbing and so forth. There was minimal of that during the Trump years. It was just "trust the plan". This isn't helpful. Politics was meant to be an active process that citizens participate in. During the Trump years, it seemed to turn into just a spectator sport. That's not how this is supposed to work.
Is this really what we want, no real political power because we actively are pushing RINOs into office to replace conservatives, but at least we "own the libs" with snarky internet remarks? Is this really the best we can do? And look, I know the left is unfairly attacking Trump, but Trump or ANY Republican needs to get pressured from the right as well, so he actually does what we want. I know the left is going to attack Trump, or anyone to the right of Rachel Maddow for that matter, but it's really getting frustrated that any pressure for accountability *from the right* is dismissed or actively trolled.
Bob Good shouldn't have even been in a competitive race. He was as solid as they get. This is getting ridiculous.
They should have never allow internet access at Weskoppies Psychiatric Hospital.
The tax cuts are Republican orthodoxy that any Republican would have done; they’re as much Ryan’s as Trump’s.
The energy independence was quickly undone by Biden. Give me something more lasting.
Some of our crime problem is from people released under the criminal reform.
Right to try is good.
Not much border wall. Most of it was simply repairing what was there.
China continues to run rampant over us.
How so?
I don’t normally do people’s research for them, but article 1, section 8 covers naturalization. A supreme court ruling from that year found this to include immigration.
Specifically, the congress can pass regulations regarding this.
The governors have the power to protect their states from invasions and emergencies.
McGuire is a McCarthy guy & is okay with men in women’s sports & bathrooms.
If you’re glad Good lost (though it’s close enough that there will be a recount), you’re not a conservative or constitutionalist, nor are you America First.
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Don’t you imagine that Trump is lining up his “must align with me” votes for his own revenge tour? And, Good would be a broken link in that chain for sure. Not a vote Trump can count on when the firing squad is reloading. In fact, while he may have voted for “conservative” positions, he has already cast his vote . . . against Trump.
So tell me. In 1976, did Ronald Reagan and his supporters backstab President Ford?
You are generally correct, but did not extend thought into what is inexorable.
There doesn’t have to be an answer. It can all fail. All problems don’t have solutions.
Nihilism is ascendant because mathematics is inescapable.
Perhaps the mathematics is daunting because we have indulged nihilism.
Nihilism and its handmaiden cynicism are the inevitable byproducts of hubris.
In other words, we are not in need of reform but of salvation.
It's time for a national come to Jesus moment- ok a secular epiphany, if that is less offputting.
Meanwhile as conservatives, ours is but to soldier on.
. . . Good was fully supportive of the regime's lawfare against President Trump and even suggested that Trump was lugging around “baggage.” In Trump's eyes, that was a traitorous move that simply couldn't be forgiven, especially considering what Trump and so many others are going through right now, thanks to this weaponized judicial system.
Why really did Trump make this call? Could it be that he is tacking to the center and doesn't want so many conservatives that might challenge his second term?
Ford was never elected, and nobody considered that useless loser the leader of a political party.
Gillum would have beat him without Trump's backing. He was behind until the endorsement.
He took that 20 point victory and left Florida to campaign against Trump. Most Floridians know that, and we've lost a lot of confidence in him.
On the binary choice, you'd rather see our country ruined by the democrats than vote for the only hope to right the ship, and that's pretty sick.
You're as pathetic as Mitt Romney.
Go ahead and pretend you'll have the last word, I won't look at it, you're not worth the time.
The states are prohibited from regulating who comes in and who goes out...
Strict adherence to the constitution will not make you many friends in this site, or any other conservative site.
How do you feel about hunter bidens criminal case?
You are a DeSantis fanatic, I know that. Trump could never ever ever trust Ron DeSantis again. Why did good decide to endorse the governor of Florida instead of the person who endorsed him? He did not return the loyalty and he’s only been a congressman for four years. So he saw how Ron turned against Trump, and he accepted that lack of loyalty. That’s the problem lack of loyalty. Hard enough to trust a politician, but when he’s not loyal to his benefactors, is especially suspect.
Ron is my governor and I was very upset when he started to run for president as soon as he got reelected in a landslide he thought he was pretty darn cool but he ignored Florida his job and we are in big trouble now because he did that. I would’ve had a lot of loyalty to DeSantis if he had done his job like he promised. Good might be the same way.
Get over DeSantis! His supporters have.
I think Hunter was guilty as charged, but I’m not sure the charges comport with the Second Amendment. I think I would have voted not guilty.
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