Posted on 06/16/2024 4:45:22 PM PDT by Libloather
A community of society-shunning Americans launched a survivalist haven in the Utah desert after finding themselves alienated from the modern world.
Hundreds of people have set themselves up to live off the land under 'Operation Self-Reliance,' feeling that getting off-the-grid is the solution to a crumbling culture.
The commune was established by Philip Gleason, 74, a former general contractor who felt a calling to allow people to grow their own food, pump their own water and rely on nothing but themselves.
He admitted to Deseret News that while some choose to live there for environmental or health reasons, its intended purpose was to evade the 'craziness' of the modern world and the current political climate under the Biden administration.
'We seem to be undergoing a cultural revolution in the U.S.,' he said. 'When we first came out here, we thought it might be too far away... Now, with everything that's happening, we wonder if it's far enough.'
Residents at the OCR co-op in Riverbed Ranch in Juab County live almost entirely off-the-grid.
Tenants each buy their own two-acre plot, where their only choice is to grow all of their own food, as the estate has no municipal power system and no sanitation utilities.
A share of the co-op costs at least $35,000, but that is before residents need to fill the obligations Gleason mandates, including building your own home from scratch.
Residents must also build a barn, install a septic system, produce their own solar energy, dig a well to the freshwater dozens of feet below and build a greenhouse.
These costs, OCR's website admits, could run up at least another $235,000, which the organization blames on 'the Covid insanity driving the cost of building materials up significantly.'
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The desert has obvious drawbacks but in a road warrior survival world living in a place that no one wants to wander to has its advantages if you want to avoid the masses.
When the system is broken not many people want to head for the desert on the off chance they may find some little something worth expending all those resources and taking all the risks to possibly come across something of little use.
A well and septic system on two acres might not be a good idea.
Why not?
You see this on ranchettes, all over Texas.
Looking at the pics in the article, it looks like a bunch of rich liberals who have enough money to support all the inputs required for them to be there. That won't last forever. Almost everything needs to be imported, like good hay for this horse.
There's stupid and there's rich and then there's stupid rich.
Only for the wealthy. That lets me out.
And when you need a doctor and a hospital?
Thank you. That sentence was driving me ditzy.
That is one exceptionally beautiful horse.
I agree, why not? I have 2 acres in arid dry SW desert in N.M. with septic the past 25 years. For now using the water co-op for the water. It’s not irrigated acreage so a well is in the plans for the future to use for gardening.
Pretty dry country out there. I’ll want to see how many people are still there 10 years from now.
https://www.epa.gov/septic/septic-systems-and-drinking-water
I have had experience with this in a small town in Iowa. If ONLY you had a well and septic it might work. But there are multiple neighbors.
On the farm, we are well aware that distance is important.
Hmmm... Septic systems and water wels in the same place...
Gee, what could go wrong...
Everyday people cut and run to Texas and Florida. Lots of FReepers cut and run to red areas from blue areas. Very few people stay and fight, American refugees fleeing to other parts of the country have decided that its better from where they came from.
I'm honored.....
In this county, you have to have the septic tank several hundred feet from the wellhead in order to not contaminate your well. The article talks like they are using a very shallow aquifer which would make the situation worse.
We have to drill to ~350’ to get decent water and ~800 to get good water.
Have lived on well & septic for over 31 years-—IN 2 different places.
NO PROBLEMS
TREAT THE SEPTIC MONTHLY WITH “BIO-CLEAN” to assist in the breakdown of solids.
DUGWAY PROVING GROUNDS
WAIT UNTIL THEY FIND OUT THAT THE EGG COMES OUT THE SAME HOLE A CHICKEN CRAPS OUT OF.
The issue is multiple septic tanks in a small area with drinking water wells also in that small area.
finding out your chicken only lays one egg at a time and not in a cardboard box with 11 others will be a eye opener...
How do you get twelve chickens IN a cardboard box ???
Not sure why anyone has to move to the desert in order to get away from the Internet or whatever. Just hide in plain site..
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