Posted on 06/02/2024 7:27:35 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
On Friday I made an appointment for this Tuesday at a Ford dealership. The service manager called and to check my AC Blower was $150 diagnostic and for the separate warning faults it would be $165 diagnostic. That diagnostic fee would not be rolled up into the repair. So I cancelled the appointment.
Where is the ADAS delete option on new autos?
They could solve a lot of this with 5 mph bumpers and moving all the electronic crap away from the very front of the car where it is first to get hit.
But the manufacturers don’t care because there is no competition doing that, 40 percent of vehicle cost is now electronics, the production cost of that stuff is low and the margins are huge so they just keep going the way they are.
In the 1950’s every year it was more chrome and tail fins. Now it is more electronic crap that most drivers just turn off anyway but they paid for it up front so who cares ?
I like chrome and tail fins. Electronic crap? Not so much.
Much of this crap is now mandated by our overlords so every moron driver can treat driving like operating an appliance.
The rocketing cost of repairing crashed cars means 21 percent of wrecks now result in a vehicle being totaled by insurance firms, a five-fold increase versus 1980.
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So in 1980, only 4% of cars were written off as not repairable? Since 1980 already had a bunch of electronics, it would be interesting to go back even further to see what the stats are....
My next car is gonna be from the 70s.
Insurance companies are most likely responsible for their inclusion to begin with, that’s the irony.
One has to wonder how many times thy were wrong and caused the accident?
Twenty years ago you were ina car crash? Get it repaired and get back on the road.
Now, cars are so complex that it costs too much to repair them. Plus, they are never the same again after an accident.
People pay for all that whizbang lastest gizmo garbage and most of that crap is never used and or ignored. But they sure are paying up the rump for all that stuff.
Does ADAS really help avoid many accidents? I assume this is proximity and lane-detection warnings to the driver, who still has to take evasive action. Or the damned driver could just PAY ATTENTION!
The electronics are a big part, but a lot cars are totalled because any damage to most of the high strength steels require parts replacement.
Back in the day with mild steel only, the body shop could pull the car back into spec, heat the frame during the pull, and collision repair was a lot cheaper. But the crash safety was nowhere near as good.
Repairability - crash safety - light weight: pick any two.
You know where computers belong?
In Computers.
As far as I’m concerned, they are a detriment in anything else.
There is also the time to repair when parts are hard to get, difficult to install and very high tech. Plus the liability of not fixing 100% correctly.
Not often, because these things are so annoying they get turned off.
Too many false positives, and no-one can stand them
I’m not sure where my adaptive cruise control and auto-dimming headlights fit in but I love both. Lane control, nope. My truck has auto leveling so hopefully will never be sagging.
If you wanted a strip it would be a special order. A dealer will never order them for inventory (lower margin + won’t sell) and buyers think they can’t resell the vehicle if they don’t have this crap on it.
You can still get a stripper if you special order it. And a tin can like a Mitsubishi Mirage won’t have anything but what is legally mandated.
It depends on the level of ADAS purchased. My Audi pre-sense has saved my bacon twice. The car braked before I could even see the threat.
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