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Man identified in 1989 'Chimney Doe' case (Wisconsin)
Channel3000 News ^ | May 15, 2025 | Corey Moen

Posted on 05/15/2024 3:35:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Madison Police and DNA Doe Project have identified skeletal remains found in a chimney in a music store in 1989.

The remains were identified as Ronnie Joe Kirk from Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Kirk according to investigators, was born in 1942, was adopted and raised by family members and attended high school in Tulsa. He was married and divorced twice, and fathered children. He had ties to Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas, Alabama and Wisconsin.

Kirk's remains were found on September 3, 1989.

Speaking to Madison Magazine's Doug Moe in 2022, Good n' Loud Music owner Steve Liethen said he was working in the basement of the store's then-new location at 5225 University Ave.

Liethen was hoping to fix a leak in one of two clay pipes that ran from the basement to the building chimney and peered into the pipe with a flashlight.

"I was hoping I would see light from the sun going down," Liethen said. "I thought it might tell me where it was leaking."

Liethen discovered a skull and scapula at the bottom of the chimney after investigating with a flashlight. The discovery kicked off a decades-long mystery that looked to be a cold case.

Gwen Knapp from DNA Doe Project said they were first contacted in December, 2019 to try a new investigative method using DNA from the the skeleton.

Genealogy work began in August of 2022. Investigators developed a genetic profile and uploaded it to GEDmatch Pro and Family Tree DNA, two databases that allow for investigative genealogical work to be done. It took about six months to identify Kirk.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 5225universityave; alabama; chimney; coreymoen; dnadoeproject; dougmoe; familytreedna; gedmatchpro; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; goodnloudmusic; gwenknapp; helixmakemineadouble; madison; missouri; oklahoma; ronniejoekirk; steveliethen; texas; tulsa; wisconsin
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To: Ezekiel

New keyboard!πŸ’€πŸ’€


21 posted on 05/15/2024 5:43:17 PM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Apparently, and oddly so, this isn't that uncommon.

I reference a female physician who, 14 years ago, died and was found in a chimney of her Bakersfield, CA boyfriend.

Yeah, weird. I guess she was shunned, and she was just bound and determined to get to him one way or the other. Terrible way to die, she was asphyxiated..... Dr Dies in Chimney

22 posted on 05/15/2024 6:00:55 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? I love animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I don’t think it was always a Music Store

Good'nLoud moved to the University Avenue location in 1989 and closed that location in 2010.
23 posted on 05/15/2024 6:06:00 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Before 1989 it had been the Bread Shop, a Christian bookstore.


24 posted on 05/15/2024 6:10:27 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Seruzawa; jagusafr
The Madison Police and DNA Doe Project have identified skeletal remains found
in a chimney in a music store in 1989.

What's really sad is that nobody knew where he was holed up for all of these years -- address unknown -- even though it was written all over his mail:

"Return to Cinder"

25 posted on 05/15/2024 6:16:57 PM PDT by Ezekiel (πŸ†˜οΈ "Come fly with US". πŸ”΄ Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Thanks Diana in Wisconsin. Looks like another tragic Store Santa story gone wrong.

26 posted on 05/15/2024 8:29:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Ezekiel

LOLOL!


27 posted on 05/15/2024 8:29:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Ezekiel

See, that’s two.

I’m laughing hard, and feeling bad that I don’t feel worse. :^D


28 posted on 05/15/2024 8:33:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Deaf Smith

LOL!

This poor bastard can’t catch a break.


29 posted on 05/15/2024 8:35:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Winner of the 1989 Hide and Seek Championship izzzzZZ....
(Drum roll)


30 posted on 05/15/2024 8:53:57 PM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: Ezekiel

πŸ˜†


31 posted on 05/15/2024 9:43:03 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Ezekiel

Aaugh! πŸ˜‚


32 posted on 05/15/2024 9:44:45 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
At least from the looks of it, he died of the flue.

Should have taken the Clot Shot!
33 posted on 05/15/2024 11:42:39 PM PDT by Kartographer (β€œWe Mutually Pedge To Each Other, Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: SunkenCiv; Rennes Templar; married21
The intel is so obvious in retrospect, innit though?

"DNA Doe Project", I mean come on, it should be written like it sounds:

DNA D'oh Project

Talk about lost in translation,

hidden in a music store chimney, no less. Who doesn't remember what Maria taught, right there out of the Sound of Music? The Sound of Music! D'oh..

"Now children, Do-re-mi-fa-so and so on are only the tools we use to build a song. Once you have these notes in your heads you can sing a million different tunes, by mixing them up. Like this!"

(When you know the notes to sing, you can sing most any thing. Doe, a deer...)

Freaky stuff, because everyone also knows that she had been running around with that sketchy chimney sweep.

(It's a Dirty Job!)

πŸ˜‡

34 posted on 05/16/2024 5:43:10 AM PDT by Ezekiel (πŸ†˜οΈ "Come fly with US". πŸ”΄ Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Ezekiel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLK4onKkIoI


35 posted on 05/16/2024 6:19:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Clay Moore

Thread Winner! :)


36 posted on 05/16/2024 6:25:06 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: SunkenCiv

There were certainly the tells in 1964 that he’d go bad. Remember in 1974, how he couldn’t tell the time? Tripped him right up! Nothing got by Columbo:

“Paul Galesko is a famous photographer married to Frances, a nagging woman and a grumbler. Paul is in love with his assistant, Lorna, so he decides to stage a fatal abduction of his wife. Everything seems to go very well to Paul, and the police accept his version of the events, but Lt. Columbo has some doubt.”

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071348/

As everyone knows, only the good die young:

Born Richard Wayne Van Dyke
December 13, 1925 (age 98)


37 posted on 05/16/2024 6:33:00 AM PDT by Ezekiel (πŸ†˜οΈ "Come fly with US". πŸ”΄ Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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