Posted on 05/15/2024 3:35:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
The Madison Police and DNA Doe Project have identified skeletal remains found in a chimney in a music store in 1989.
The remains were identified as Ronnie Joe Kirk from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Kirk according to investigators, was born in 1942, was adopted and raised by family members and attended high school in Tulsa. He was married and divorced twice, and fathered children. He had ties to Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas, Alabama and Wisconsin.
Kirk's remains were found on September 3, 1989.
Speaking to Madison Magazine's Doug Moe in 2022, Good n' Loud Music owner Steve Liethen said he was working in the basement of the store's then-new location at 5225 University Ave.
Liethen was hoping to fix a leak in one of two clay pipes that ran from the basement to the building chimney and peered into the pipe with a flashlight.
"I was hoping I would see light from the sun going down," Liethen said. "I thought it might tell me where it was leaking."
Liethen discovered a skull and scapula at the bottom of the chimney after investigating with a flashlight. The discovery kicked off a decades-long mystery that looked to be a cold case.
Gwen Knapp from DNA Doe Project said they were first contacted in December, 2019 to try a new investigative method using DNA from the the skeleton.
Genealogy work began in August of 2022. Investigators developed a genetic profile and uploaded it to GEDmatch Pro and Family Tree DNA, two databases that allow for investigative genealogical work to be done. It took about six months to identify Kirk.
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I reference a female physician who, 14 years ago, died and was found in a chimney of her Bakersfield, CA boyfriend.
Yeah, weird. I guess she was shunned, and she was just bound and determined to get to him one way or the other. Terrible way to die, she was asphyxiated..... Dr Dies in Chimney
Before 1989 it had been the Bread Shop, a Christian bookstore.
What's really sad is that nobody knew where he was holed up for all of these years -- address unknown -- even though it was written all over his mail:
"Return to Cinder"
Thanks Diana in Wisconsin. Looks like another tragic Store Santa story gone wrong.
LOLOL!
See, that’s two.
I’m laughing hard, and feeling bad that I don’t feel worse. :^D
LOL!
This poor bastard can’t catch a break.
Winner of the 1989 Hide and Seek Championship izzzzZZ....
(Drum roll)
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"DNA Doe Project", I mean come on, it should be written like it sounds:
DNA D'oh Project
Talk about lost in translation,
hidden in a music store chimney, no less. Who doesn't remember what Maria taught, right there out of the Sound of Music? The Sound of Music! D'oh..
"Now children, Do-re-mi-fa-so and so on are only the tools we use to build a song. Once you have these notes in your heads you can sing a million different tunes, by mixing them up. Like this!"
(When you know the notes to sing, you can sing most any thing. Doe, a deer...)
Freaky stuff, because everyone also knows that she had been running around with that sketchy chimney sweep.
(It's a Dirty Job!)
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Thread Winner! :)
There were certainly the tells in 1964 that he’d go bad. Remember in 1974, how he couldn’t tell the time? Tripped him right up! Nothing got by Columbo:
“Paul Galesko is a famous photographer married to Frances, a nagging woman and a grumbler. Paul is in love with his assistant, Lorna, so he decides to stage a fatal abduction of his wife. Everything seems to go very well to Paul, and the police accept his version of the events, but Lt. Columbo has some doubt.”
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071348/
As everyone knows, only the good die young:
Born Richard Wayne Van Dyke
December 13, 1925 (age 98)
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