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Was America Evil to Drop Atomic Bombs on Japan?
The Intellectual Takeout ^ | May 1, 2024 | Kurt Mahlburg

Posted on 05/04/2024 7:00:50 PM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: DoodleBob

Ask all the US soldiers scheduled for the invasion of Japan but did no have to go.

See the lower cartoon “Plans”. this happened to my dad. “The Bomb” prevented his having to go.

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201 posted on 05/05/2024 6:49:37 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: DoodleBob

***like, are you joking? If you find yourself arguing that it’s a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil.***

Stick him in a landing craft heading into a highly fortified Japan in late 1945 and he will be singing a different tune.


202 posted on 05/05/2024 6:51:37 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: DoodleBob

Ask that of the families of the men who were headed on transport ships for the land invasion of Japan.

The ships turned around and headed for home after the bombs were dropped, saving most, if not all of their lives, and the ensuing, never ending grief of their loved ones.


203 posted on 05/05/2024 6:53:41 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: moviefan8

It may be that some people cannot handle fame or popularity, and it may also be that they simply connot face evil (and some cannot even acknowledge the existance of evil) and accept that evil must be destroyed. Among decent people, this is an understandable, although not a moral position to take.


204 posted on 05/05/2024 6:55:24 AM PDT by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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To: DoodleBob

I believe dropping the nucs was evil. But it did probably display to the world how really terrible it is, and would be, if nucs were used. It was a definitely a type of deterrent.

It happened and no country has used one on another since then.

The actual everyday citizens of most countries don’t deserve what their governments do out of aggression and greed.

We can always say “they voted for it” or “they chose that person”. We know that just isn’t true. Just look at what kind of evil POS was installed as the leader of America.

I sure would not want to die by nuke for the actions of that slimeball and his regime. But they are rotten and aggressive enough to invite an enemy to want to nuke us.

It goes both ways.


205 posted on 05/05/2024 7:01:26 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: DoodleBob
The firebombing of Tokyo killed more people and destroyed more property than the atomic bombings. But no one today agonizes over it.

Agonizing over the atomic bombing is something left over from Cold War era Soviet propaganda.

206 posted on 05/05/2024 7:31:04 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Secret Agent Man

Agree more people died by incendiary bombing then the atomic bomb it ended their desire for waring.


207 posted on 05/05/2024 7:32:03 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Pelham; DoodleBob; Rummyfan; wardaddy

Thank you Pelham for posting this brilliant essay by Paul Fussel. Reminding of the imbecility of “Canting”, which we experience now from complete morons of so called academia, as the behest and pay of relics like Soros et al. The self righteousness of them all is as Fussel described an abominable conceit. Many thanks, again.


208 posted on 05/05/2024 7:33:06 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: DoodleBob

I guess one could argue that we could have had a peaceful end to the war and that bombing people is always bad. I just don’t see why a nuclear bomb is somehow significantly worse than a regular bomb. Getting blown up is bad no matter what.


209 posted on 05/05/2024 7:35:56 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: escapefromboston
"Getting blown up is bad no matter what."

The 100,000 killed at Hiroshima are at least 10X more dead than the 100,000 killed in Tokyo during that incendiary attack.

210 posted on 05/05/2024 7:41:11 AM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: alexander_busek

Appreciate your reply. The planners of the anti-Hirohito military coup were visited by the neutered Tojo, and emboldened by his lunatic urging they destroy the monarch and carry on the war. War Minister (Gen.) Anami was caught between the reality of defeat and ingrained “honor” repelling invasion, and trying to keep the coup forces red-taped, he eventually slit his belly. Hirohito’s recording was played by NHK to a stunned japanese public who had never heard the voice of the Emperor/god. A much better outcome than continuing a massive invasion which would have wiped Japan away.


211 posted on 05/05/2024 7:46:42 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: DoodleBob

Untimely death is EVIL.

Nuking Japan minimized untimely death.

Therefore, GOOD.


212 posted on 05/05/2024 7:58:20 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (DEI = Didn't Earn It!)
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To: DoodleBob

Israel is currently failing to learn and implement the moral success of nuking Japan.

The Japanese have not gone about murdering anyone since they were nuked. Unlike the many conflicts since, in which total defeat of the will if the populace to ever wage war again was not achieved. In essentially every conflict since, the putative loser has gone home to lick their wounds, harbor their grievances, and attack again, costing many more lives than total defeat would have caused.

This is not an argument for nuking any given opponent. It is an argument for using just enough force to defeat the will of the population to ever start wars again.

That strategy saves the most lives in the long run.

Total Victory is MORAL.


213 posted on 05/05/2024 8:03:19 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (DEI = Didn't Earn It!)
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To: Rinnwald

And I think Hiroshima was Army HQ if I recall.


214 posted on 05/05/2024 8:12:58 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: moviefan8

Rush had a pronounced dislike for conspiracy nuttism. He said that he once got duped by some crackpot group while in Kansas City and the experience made him very careful afterwards.

Beck, and now Tucker, haven’t got the same finely tuned bulls#it detector that Rush had developed.


215 posted on 05/05/2024 8:38:34 AM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: DoodleBob

Heck no!


216 posted on 05/05/2024 9:04:02 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: DoodleBob

It was named Fat Man, not Fat Boy.


217 posted on 05/05/2024 9:07:07 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: edwinland
Actually they DON'T know anything.

All you have to do is read the Japanese records and you find that they had no idea what they were talking about. And not for the first time.

218 posted on 05/05/2024 9:47:25 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
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To: Menes

One problem though is the very real possibility that Germany fell to a Bolshevik Revolution, it probably would have happened if not for The Freikorps. Unfortunately The Freikorps were the seed that eventually grew into the Nazi Party.


219 posted on 05/05/2024 9:49:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: alexander_busek

Yes, definitely the war would have ended in Europe, Mr. Busek. General Beck and C. F. Goerdeler were under no illusions what the military situation was like :-)

And yes, the Nazi system would have collapsed. You see, it really was totally centered around the person of the accursed “leader”, unlike the Soviet system.

With it, and most importantly, there would have been peace in Europe, saving millions of lives and untold amounts of material assets. Certainly even the postwar population movings and ethnic cleansings would have been less bloody.

and please: Think about the American soldiers who fell after July 1944, including the dead in the Ardennes, or even somebody like Joseph P. Kennedy, jr., the eldest of the four Kennedy brothers.

Furthermore, I am quite sure that the postwar famines wouldn’t have been as harsh as they were. Thus, more survivors, less tragedy.

Hitler survived no less that 42 assassination attempts (the first as early as 1931), and I often ask God why He let not one of them succeed.


220 posted on 05/05/2024 10:04:14 AM PDT by Menes
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