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WAS IT AN “ACCIDENT?” Lara Logan Intel Sources Claim Baltimore Bridge Collapse On “Second busiest strategic roadway for hazardous materials” Was “absolutely brilliant strategic attack”
thegatewaypundit.com ^ | Mar. 26, 2024 | Patty McMurray

Posted on 03/27/2024 9:08:32 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: ransomnote
I'm with Ransom on this, and I know lots more info will come out.

For now, I remind folks of the mishap just over a year ago, same vicinity, in the Chesapeake, where a ship grounded.

BALTIMORE -- The pilot of the cargo ship Ever Forward, which ran around in the Chesapeake Bay last year, has given up his license, WJZ has learned.

61 posted on 03/27/2024 9:53:28 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: ransomnote

The best strategic attacks are ones that show no signs of being an attack.


62 posted on 03/27/2024 9:54:55 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: MeganC

“It’s a massive ship with a deadweight of 116,000 tons and the power went out and then they went full reverse...the equivalent of slamming on the brakes in your car.”

The Titanic has no bearing on this event.

Why would going in full reverse cause it to make a right turn, travel some distance, and bullseye the support structure?

And why not wait until it reached the long expanse to start making maneuvers? It had just about cleared the support structure.


63 posted on 03/27/2024 9:55:10 AM PDT by odawg
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To: ransomnote

Or really busy bridges near really busy ports are the ones most likely to be involved in an accident with a boat.


64 posted on 03/27/2024 9:55:48 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Wuli; ransomnote

There are no such things as conspiracy theories anymore.

Everything from a completely unforeseen mechanical failure that could not be avoided to a meticulously planned out terrorist attack is in play until the actual FACTS come out.

And I don’t even trust “facts” anymore when they come from governmental sources.

And the government and the media did this to themselves. I didn’t do it, and posters on this forum didn’t do it.

The government and media, through their lies, collaboration, and collusion have accomplished this destruction of any public trust in anything at all.

Normal people who don’t think like sheep (and we have a lot of sheep-like thinkers here, even on this ostensibly conservative forum) will make judgements in their own self-interest, which in today’s world, is a rational response to this corruption.


65 posted on 03/27/2024 9:57:13 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: ransomnote
The obvious "What if........" question the engineers are supposed to consider was not considered.

And you can't say they didn't have recent past history to use as an alibi either. Even the correction for such a problem was ignored.

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66 posted on 03/27/2024 9:59:41 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Jamestown1630
"...It’s more sensible to believe in accidents than in the fevered ravings of some of these posters..."

I have to disagree with you on this, but to a specific point. I would say: It's more sensible, in today's world, to believe that the cause of a given catastrophic accident may have multiple possible causes, NONE of which should be automatically ruled out or blindly accepted until more real information is known."

Accepting an airline disaster as an accident right off the bat is as foolish as accepting that same airline disaster as a terrorist event right off the bat.

67 posted on 03/27/2024 10:04:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Vendome

Yes!

Julius Caesar built a river across the Rhine River in 10 days.


68 posted on 03/27/2024 10:08:34 AM PDT by cld51860 ("This business will get out of control...")
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To: Alberta's Child
I’m curious to know how many ships have been stranded inside the port.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-76.5/centery:39.1/zoom:11

This website offers real-time positioning off all ships with transponders

You can see ships lined up, waiting to get into port

69 posted on 03/27/2024 10:10:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: linMcHlp

Since they were not far from their departing port, I wonder if they called for tugs at first sign of trouble. Don’t know how long it would have taken them to reach the ship.


70 posted on 03/27/2024 10:10:33 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: Solson

Solson wrote: “Lara’s been right alot more than she’s been wrong. Her sources have come through well for her before.”

you must be referring to her comments about Darwin and the Rothschild’s.

In March 2022, Logan claimed without evidence that Charles Darwin was employed by the Rothschild family to create his theory of evolution. She also promoted claims that the Rothschild family, a frequent target of antisemitic conspiracy theories, engineered the American Civil War and the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy.

Then there were her claims that On 31 May 2020, about an antifa instruction manual. Her picture actually was an updated hoax dating to the 2015 Baltimore riots.
On 1 June, Logan tweeted a threat by the @ANTIFA_US Twitter account. The account turned out to be fake and linked to Identity Evropa, a white nationalist organization.

After being criticized for posting the hoaxes, Logan claimed that there was a campaign to “destroy” her, including by Media Matters for America.

On 4 June 2020, Logan appeared on Hannity to claim that antifa was leaving “pallets of bricks” at protest sites in an attempt to stoke violence and destruction. Fact-checkers found that claims of bricks being left at protest sites were without foundation, and that pictures submitted as evidence of this activity were actually taken at ordinary construction sites. No one else reported seeing antifa trucks leaving pallets of bricks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Logan


71 posted on 03/27/2024 10:10:42 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: nwrep
WAS IT AN “ACCIDENT?”

\%

i thought so...

..until minutes later

media / obiden admin said

’ not terrorist attack “.

then when i see all the usual narrative control cubicle doughnut munching debunkers like you show up

i became even more suspicious

72 posted on 03/27/2024 10:10:55 AM PDT by cuz1961 (officially useless /-))
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To: MeganC
Titanic

Examination of the hull exterior, does not show the famous, long gash. (Setting aside all the OBVIOUS damage!)

Instead, on the port side, there is a large puncture hole - the middle of which, is at the waterline. IMH GUESS (Using another image for reference.)

The hole is vertically, almost directly beneath the foremost position of the ship's 4 exhaust stacks. (I think?).

Middle of the following image:


73 posted on 03/27/2024 10:11:33 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: cbvanb

“That isn’t a solution, it blocks the port.”

Time for a tunnel, in fact the HRBT in Hampton Roads is getting an additional Tunnel built that should be done fairly soon I would reckon but... the contractor is right there they could shift everything up to Baltimore if the timings right. I think a tunnel is the way to go.


74 posted on 03/27/2024 10:11:50 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: ransomnote

I’d follow him for updates, as he is an expert in the industry:

What is Going on With Shipping? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPRz7wk3WY


75 posted on 03/27/2024 10:12:04 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: odawg

This fellow does a very good analysis of the event and the possible unintentional turn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4AuGZIhJ_c

Watch that video and then consider these points from an analysis of the Titanic which was in a similar situation as it tried to avoid an obstacle:

“4. A final engineering choice that slowed the ship’s ability to turn was that when the engines were reversed, the third screw, the one directly behind the rudder, stopped turning (as it was driven by a steam turbine fed by the exhausts of the outboard piston engines).

This further reduced the effectiveness of the rudder.

...

Modern analysts, aided by modern tools and with exhaustive research, have determined that the liner would have cleared the iceberg if the engines had not been reversed while executing the hard turn to port.”

In short, reversing the engines while also trying to maneuver is going to fail in a ship that uses a rudder.

A growing number of modern ships that use azipods for thrust will not have this problem.


76 posted on 03/27/2024 10:13:41 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: nwrep

Oh here we go with the conspiracy theories.
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A curious mind is the bane of the CIA. They call those with curious minds conspiracy theorist. They don’t want you curious, they want you dumbed down to believe whatever they they tell you to believe. Preserve your curiosity at all cost.


77 posted on 03/27/2024 10:13:53 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Karl Spooner

DeYoung’s book looks interesting.


78 posted on 03/27/2024 10:14:46 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Vermont Lt
The impact on the flow of cars into the country

Port of Philadelphia (Packer Marine Terminal) could take, probably, two more car ships a week. Not sure exactly what the volume is in Baltimore.

79 posted on 03/27/2024 10:16:52 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In the conflict between the stone and the stream, the stream will always prevail.)
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To: Magnum44
I lean towards the DEI and incompetence.

All 22 crew were Indian, so probably incompetence more than DEI. Baltimore based Harbor Pilot had extensive experience in that specific channel. It appears the ship suffered an engineering casualty that caused loss of power and steering. It happened at absolutely the worst time.

I expect port authorities/Dept of Transportation will be reviewing tug operations, and in some cases will require tug services passing through certain passages the find vulnerable to strikes like this one.

80 posted on 03/27/2024 10:17:11 AM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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