Posted on 01/12/2024 1:00:59 AM PST by CDR Kerchner
He was born in Canada. There is better proof for that than anything else.
I have addressed this issue many times in the past. People apparently didn't notice, or didn't take what I said seriously.
Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in 1965, when Soetoro married Stanley Ann. In 1968 (I think) Barry Soetoro (Obama) was sent back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents.
It is very likely Obama was adopted by his grandparents so that they could have legal guardianship over him, since his mother was still living in Indonesia.
When a child is adopted, the original birth certificate is sealed, and the state produces a new one alleging that the adopting parents were the actual parents at the time of birth.
All states routinely forge birth certificates in the case of adoption. Because the original birth certificate is sealed, it takes a court order to unseal it. Obama could get a "certificate of birth" or whatever that thing was he initially showed, but most people weren't buying it.
What he eventually showed as his "original" birth certificate was simply a replacement birth certificate created by the State of Hawaii. They probably used photoshop, but it wasn't done in 1961, it was done in 2012, or whenever Obama released it.
It's a fake, but it is a legal fake, created by the Vital Records Bureaucracy in Hawaii.
I hadn’t heard about Canada as a possibility. But it really is beside the point. The only issue is ... is he a natural born citizen? Since I believe he is not, we can understand why the FF’s made this requirement. Because a usurper such as BO can destroy the country and I believe he did as (fake) president and continues to this day as puppet-master.
I think that was the “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth,” a program that got dropped at some point, not the “Certificate of Live Birth” certified by a hospital and doctor. The CHB was for people who had been born at home, though others took advantage of it as well (Chinese leader Sun Yat-Sen, for example).
I do not think that is correct, but I also do not think it is worth arguing about. I did a lot of research on this issue in 2008-2012, and my recollection is that the Hawaiian statutes in effect at the time of Obama's birth allowed him to receive a Hawaiian birth certificate even if he wasn't born in Hawaii.
The circumstantial evidence strongly implies he was born in either the very Northwestern most point in the US, or in Canada.
Stanley Ann Dunham's aunt, Eleanor Birkebeile Dunham (Stanley's sister) lived in Blaine Washington, which is on the border of Canada, and actually shares the border with White Rock Canada.
Having your daughter impregnated by a black man in 1961 would have been seen as an absolutely embarrassing pregnancy in 1961, and the common practice was to send the girl away to live with relatives until the child is born and put up for adoption. (As Barack Obama Sr said in a letter was their intention.)
Trouble is, there was no hospital in Blaine Washington, but there was just across the border in White Rock Canada.
If Stanley Ann was there, then it's almost certain she went to White Rock for the delivery of her baby.
But like I said, this stuff is all moot now. Just like so many Rinos don't care about the 2020 election fraud and theft, so too did the majority of Republicans not care at all if Obama was born in America or not, at least not enough to take the question seriously.
They were perfectly content to merely accept that lying sack of sh*t's word, and that of Nancy Pelosi who attested he was, in their party's ballot applications.
We have the same problem with the January 6rs. Too many Republicans don't care what really happened and are perfectly happy accepting what the media liars tell them.
No, there was the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program, for those born in the long ago plantations where no doctor was present. There was also a way for parents who lived in Hawaii to get a birth certificate from the state, but that program was started in 1982, long after Obama was born. I haven’t seen any of those documents, but I doubt they’d have a Hawaiian hospital and doctor on them.
As you said, it’s not worth arguing about this now.
These laws were adopted because so many people were born on ships in transit to Hawaii, and so they wrote the law to allow them to claim the first Hawaiian port they came to as their place of birth.
And these laws have always been in place, and are still in place. This is not a 1982 thing, this is a before Hawaii even became a state thing.
I don’t find any record of that online. If you have, produce it. Shipboard births, if they were registered at all would have “AT SEA” on the birth certificate, not the name of a hospital, and presumably a ship’s doctor would have signed them.
This looks like a good stopping place for me.
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