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A bizarre galaxy NASA spotted at the edge of the universe could upend what we know about supermassive black holes
Business Insider ^ | 12/27/2023 | Marianne Guenot

Posted on 12/29/2023 6:16:54 PM PST by logi_cal869

A bizarre galaxy spotted in the early days of the universe could rewrite how supermassive black holes are formed.

Scientists have long wondered how supermassive black holes — the enormous, mysterious phenomena at the center of galaxies including our Milky Way — came into existence.

A new observation of Galaxy UHZ-1, collected by NASA using its powerful new James Webb Space Telescope and the Chandra X-ray Observatory, suggests an unusual origin.

Per the agency, it could show that the supermassive black hole there was born directly from clouds of primordial gas.

If confirmed, it would show, for the first time, that supermassive black holes are not always formed by dying stars.

Such a discovery "changes the game in understanding how these objects formed," said study lead author Priyamvada Natarajan while speaking to Science Friday, a non-profit science-education organization.

"It is simply too big too early. It's like looking in at a kindergarten classroom and there among all the 5-year-olds is one that is 150 pounds and/or six feet tall," Daniel Holz, a theorist at the University of Chicago who studies black holes, told The New York Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: blackholes; idiotorthodoxy; sciencedumbassery; wewho; whoarewe
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The last line in the excerpt is the MONEY QUOTE.

The pics below represent the 'science' of astrophysics following their explanation for the existence of this black hole.


1 posted on 12/29/2023 6:16:54 PM PST by logi_cal869
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Per the agency, it could show that the supermassive black hole there was born directly from clouds of primordial gas. "It could show", iow, it's a guess; not a deeply researched study.
2 posted on 12/29/2023 6:26:26 PM PST by adorno (CCH)
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To: logi_cal869

Of course, Darwin was one of the ignorant immensity!

I submit that he has learned that you pray God forgives your sorry self!”
“Darwinism?” Nope.


3 posted on 12/29/2023 6:26:38 PM PST by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: logi_cal869

Of course, Darwin was one of the ignorant immensity!

I submit that he has learned that you pray God forgives your sorry self!”
“Darwinism?” Nope.


4 posted on 12/29/2023 6:27:06 PM PST by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: BatGuano

Figures.../s


5 posted on 12/29/2023 6:27:47 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: BatGuano

Please excuse my double post.


6 posted on 12/29/2023 6:28:40 PM PST by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: logi_cal869

The universe was formed by special creation by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.


7 posted on 12/29/2023 6:38:23 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: logi_cal869

Please… no posts from “Business Insider.”


8 posted on 12/29/2023 6:53:14 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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9 posted on 12/29/2023 7:11:03 PM PST by xp38
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To: logi_cal869

It’s interesting, I guess, but why do we need to know anything about black holes?

God created it on — literally — Day One. So much money being spent on stuff like this. How does it help us in any way?


10 posted on 12/29/2023 7:22:12 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: MayflowerMadam

Probably only about 1 out of 10,000 cosmologists even believe that God exists. If even that. They really don’t even except the possibility in their studies. In fact, they’re looking for anything BUT God.


11 posted on 12/29/2023 7:31:02 PM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: logi_cal869
It's like looking in at a kindergarten classroom and there among all the 5-year-olds is one that is 150 pounds and/or six feet tall

Oh, do they mean like in Detroit?

12 posted on 12/29/2023 7:32:09 PM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: Bullish

Accept.


13 posted on 12/29/2023 7:40:30 PM PST by webheart
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To: logi_cal869

It’s like looking in at a kindergarten classroom and there among all the 5-year-olds is one that is 150 pounds and/or six feet tall,”

kind of like an inner city school ??


14 posted on 12/29/2023 7:46:13 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: logi_cal869

Out of all the knowledge in the universe - what percentage do humans know? 1/1,000th percent? No, not even that.

Man’s pride is beyond measuring.

How about God spoke black holes into existence just like he did the stars? No difference really.

But man has to come up with a way things happen. And in every realm of science man regularly and repeatedly finds new discoveries that prove all his past theories were dead wrong.

Does this produce a drop of humility? Nope.


15 posted on 12/29/2023 7:58:16 PM PST by Arlis
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To: logi_cal869

I’m continuously amazed at the audacity of scientists who brazenly make statements they cannot prove. No one knows where or even if the universe has an edge or how long it has existed.


16 posted on 12/29/2023 8:01:01 PM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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They have to make outlandish claims so they can get govt grant money to study them. Same with the climate science scams. Think up something that’s scary then demand money to investigate it.


17 posted on 12/29/2023 8:36:13 PM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: BatGuano

I’ve made that mistake too. It happens, you should just try to be more careful.


18 posted on 12/29/2023 8:40:48 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: logi_cal869
A bizarre galaxy NASA spotted at the edge of the universe could upend what we THINK WE know about supermassive black holes

Fixed it.

19 posted on 12/29/2023 9:24:48 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: logi_cal869

Onè is tempted to say: “The Science” is based on mountains of conjecture, but being too early for that, we’ll have to console ourselves with “The Science” is based on black holes of conjecture!


20 posted on 12/30/2023 12:09:36 AM PST by Theophilus (It's far easier to rig a jury than an electionhe )
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