Posted on 12/23/2023 5:10:19 AM PST by V_TWIN
This is the terrifying moment a Norwegian cruise ship with British tourists on board was struck by a 'rogue wave', sending passengers sliding around the floor and knocking out its power during a ferocious North Sea storm.
MS Maud was sailing some 162 miles off Denmark's west coast and about 217 miles off Britain's east coast when the monster wave shattered its windows on the bridge. VIDEO AT LINK
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
So several waves combine and turn red?
This always happens when wave half-wavelengths match the hull’s length. Also, this ship presented its starboard bow to the wave instead of powering directly into it. Modern cruise ships are top heavy, and roll much more violent when heeled by big waves.
The word is misspelled in the article. (And by me) should be Rogue not Rouge
“There are no floors on ships.” You are correct in that the floors they are talking about are called decks. However, there are floors on a ship. They are vertical structural components (longitudinal stiffeners) which run parallel to the Keel from FWD to AFT.
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Athwart-ship stiffeners in holds which hold ribs together are also called “floors”. So “floors” must refer to all in-hold stiffeners.
I think “rogue” is the most misspelled word I’ve ever seen.
“Pre-cruise cancellations would require a complete refund plus a very significant amount of compensation.”
Any less than being sued by the passengers whether injured or not because they didn’t take the safety of their passengers into consideration.
They knew of the rough seas and the possible danger before they left port in Seattle. They didn’t tell anyone about it nor why they were shutting down early for the opening night. They made efforts to try to seem normal during the early part of the evening even while closing off the outside and not telling people of the possible danger they were putting them in.
The larger ships that do Alaska for this line can carry up to 4000 passengers. At one million a case, and the lawyer will get his/her portion, that comes to $4 billion dollars. The cost of one of the newest cruise ships for Royal Caribbean’s Oasis Class cruise ships, not the line I was on, comes in at $1.4 billion. So if just around a quarter of the passengers on my cruise had sued, it would have cost them close to the cost of building one ship at today’s prices and the cruise I’m talking about happened 30 years ago when the ships were not that expensive.
So like I said, the cruise company was more interested in their money than they were in the safety of the passengers they were carrying when they gambled no one might get hurt. This isn’t backing up toilets, it’s bodily injury.
wy69
1952? An apparently memorable cruise. Welcome to the sailor’s life.
I’m thinking poor seamanship.
But that won’t get many clicks.
Considering the passenger demographics, that cruise line was very, very lucky...
whitney69 wrote: “Any less than being sued by the passengers whether injured or not because they didn’t take the safety of their passengers into consideration.”
Read the cruise contract. You gave up the right to sue. Mandatory arbitration. All the things you mentioned would be evidence that they did take the safety of their passengers into consideration. An arbitration would consider weather a inherent danger of being on the sea.
The larger wave preceded the ‘rogue’ wave.
Pilot error. He was taking the sea at an angle when he should have been taking them straight on, at a slower speed.
In the words of Bob Segar “deadlines and commitments”.
There’s a reason it’s called a “deadline”. Making it or missing it can kill you.
Skirted a typhoon in the Indian Ocean in a DE in ‘68. Sounded like it was going to snap in half or twist into a corkscrew.
“You gave up the right to sue.”
10. NOTICE OF CLAIMS AND COMMENCEMENT OF SUIT OR ARBITRATION; SECURITY
a. TIME LIMITS FOR PERSONAL INJURY/ILLNESS/DEATH CLAIMS: NO SUIT SHALL BE MAINTAINABLE AGAINST CARRIER, THE VESSEL OR THE TRANSPORT FOR PERSONAL INJURY, ILLNESS OR DEATH OF ANY PASSENGER UNLESS WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE CLAIM, WITH FULL PARTICULARS, SHALL BE DELIVERED TO CARRIER AT ITS PRINCIPAL OFFICE WITHIN SIX (6) MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE INJURY, ILLNESS OR DEATH AND SUIT IS COMMENCED (FILED) WITHIN ONE (1) YEAR FROM THE DATE OF SUCH INJURY, ILLNESS OR DEATH AND PROCESS SERVED WITHIN 120 DAYS AFTER FILING, NOTWITHSTANDING ANY PROVISION OF LAW OF ANY STATE OR COUNTRY TO THE CONTRARY.
No one is beyond suing if handled properly to include God. (God’s been sued before)
wy69
Exciting right? 😂😂😂🌊
11. LIMITATIONS OF LIABILITY
a. EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN ARTICLE 6(e), CARRIER SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR INJURY, DEATH, ILLNESS, DAMAGE, DELAY OR OTHER LOSS TO PERSON OR PROPERTY, OR ANY OTHER CLAIM BY ANY PASSENGER CAUSED BY ACT OF GOD, WAR, TERRORISM, CIVIL COMMOTION, LABOR TROUBLE, GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE, PERILS OF THE SEA, FIRE, THEFTS OR ANY OTHER CAUSE BEYOND CARRIER’S REASONABLE CONTROL, OR ANY ACT NOT SHOWN TO BE CAUSED BY CARRIER’S NEGLIGENCE.
Here’s some more information:
Early December 2006 we were between Los Angeles and Hawaii in Princess and had the most horrible seas. Pouring down rain. All events were cancelled. It was difficult to walk around. Dishes flew everywhere. Water sloshed into the decks. It lasted between 12 & 24 hours, I guess.
Many Navy vets were aboard, headed to Pearl Harbor for 65th anniversary events. THEY were getting sick.
We didn’t know WTH was going on, and nobody told us ANYTHING. This was before cruise ships had any live news available via satellite, any Internet, cell phone reception at sea, etc. Everyone was terrified.
Two weeks later we returned to CA, and our pastor said, “You must’ve had some terrible days at sea.” He was a surfer and monitored some sites having to do with buoys or something. We had been at a location where three different storms converged. From Japan, Alaska, and somewhere south, IIRC.
” All the things you mentioned would be evidence that they did take the safety of their passengers into consideration.”
They knew before they left port in Seattle the threat to their passengers was going to be there. They made no effort to warn the passengers that it was a threat. They changed the situation with the on deck actions because they didn’t want to wash anyone over board. They changed the ships float plan by lowering the speeds to keep crew safe on the stage, then forced everyone into their rooms knowing how rough it was going to be and allowed them to ricochet in the rooms with items flying around without warning. The only safety they promoted was their money being safely in the bank and then lied to the passengers at the first port. If they didn’t think they did anything wrong, then why did they put passengers in danger without telling them it was going to happen, change the format of the cruise, and then fail to warn the passengers of the danger that would be in the rooms? That is loving the money a whole lot more than being concerned with the safety of the passengers. And as I displayed in a previous thread, they can be sued and just tried to get away with it. I swore I’d never get on another cruise of that company again and from the passengers I talked with, they won’t either.
If there is no opportunity to sue, I live in Tacoma and we have a number of maritime attorneys that specialize in recoup from martitime based lawsuits. A few are:
Alaska Bar Association, Oregon State Bar, King County Bar, Joeseph s. Stacey are just a few. Waks and Barnett are one of the leaders in the industry:
wy69
My wife and I have been on 16 cruises and two land cruise adventures since the early 1980’s.
wy69
hardly a rogue wave... just 2 bigger waves and the ship hit em!! aint no one seen waves like a NorEastern off Hokkaido Japan!! Imagine if you will spending an entire 8 hour shift manually venting water pumps in an engine room lower level!! not fun!! lol..
whitney69 wrote: “If there is no opportunity to sue, I live in Tacoma and we have a number of maritime attorneys that specialize in recoup from martitime based lawsuits.”
Since you know so many maritime lawyer, contact one and see if they think you have a case.
Btw, those things you mentioned, ie, recucing speed, are evidence that the cruise line was not acting negligently.
I dont have an image host but snuffing the nose of my navy ship, the St Louis LKA-116 happened often and the foxail was 80’ of the water!!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/USS_St_Louis_%28LKA-116%29_underway_1976.jpg
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