Posted on 12/21/2023 1:58:22 PM PST by marcusmaximus
Russian war fanatics are enraged over an 'almost naked' party staged in Moscow by wealthy showbiz celebrities including Vladimir Putin's 'goddaughter'.
The 'debauched' gathering was likened to Sodom and Gomorrah by critics claiming the antics of the wealthy stars insulted those on the frontline in the Kremlin's illegal war against Ukraine.
Among the most visible guests was a pregnant and braless Ksenia Sobchak, 40, a TV presenter and 'liberal' Russian presidential candidate in 2018, in a nude-coloured Sorelle outfit.
She is known as Putin's goddaughter after he attended her baptism and viewed her late father Anatoly Sobchak as his political mentor.
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Putin's goddaughter later rejected criticism of the semi-naked party, saying: 'Maybe it was a bad party in your opinion.
'We wanted glamour and it turned out the way it did.
'Maybe you don't like to look at it all, but, sorry, where and when grown-ups go with a bare bum is their own business.
'The world isn't fair - it always has been this way, is and always will be.
'Somewhere people are being killed, somewhere children are starving, and somewhere else [people are] drinking champagne at the same time.
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But sadly, you didn't learn much about the truth, which is why when you seriously apply critical thinking skills, there is only one obvious conclusion. The earth and everything we see on earth and what surrounds the earth further beyond what we could even explore could have only come about by a intelligent design, a.k.a. an intelligent creator.
The mathematical odds are too large to ever support that the order happened in the right sequence to occur by happenstance , to believe otherwise, would be an emotional conclusion that was the desired conclusion. That is how I know my conclusion is the truth. What you think or believe will not throw doubt upon my realization what is the truth.
Sadly, it is you who wants to claim my truths are not truths and my conclusions are emotional. It would have been much easier to believe the random theory was the correct theory, but when you learn the truth, it becomes a settled subject.
You can try all you want to shake my belief, but you will never succeed. You are free to try, but you are only wasting your time, because I am without doubt. If you had actually engaged in what I engaged in, you would understand. You don't understand which is why I know you haven't gone down that path. Until you do you will never understand. It's just the reality.
If you do an internet search on whether Putin wanted to end child trafficking in the Ukraine, all the “fact-check” websites say “there’s no evidence” that Putin wanted this.
The most accurate way to know if something is true or not is to look on the “fact check” websites. If they say it’s true, then the reality is it’s false. If they say it’s false, then it’s true.
Oh you will hurt, without question.
Yes, I saw that and it’s downright barbarian.
I can’t wish death on people, though. Not even Ukrainian Nazis. I have huge contempt and disgust for them, but there’s always at least a sliver of hope that a heart can be softened and changed.
Merry Christmas. ✝️
“Let me be sure I understand your position. There are two kinds of spiritual belief. One is a conviction as to fact of the spiritual thing. The other has to do with trust and devotion to the spiritual thing. When you say belief requires emotion, are you referring to the latter kind?”
First off, you misstated my description of the former: YOU said — as you wrote above — that BELIEF is the conviction.
However, I said that FAITH is the conviction that one’s BELIEF is true.
As for the latter — which you describe as involving trust and devotion to a spiritual thing — that is very much emotion-based. While trust requires a leap of faith (usually based on some foundation, real or imagined); devotion is strictly emotion-driven, as it requires dedication and loyalty, both of which are emotions.
Nice try, kid. You assume facts not in evidence, jump to conclusions, and rush to judgment: Those who have lost the argument often resort to such errors.
And, you claim I want to shake your belief? That is the biggest assumption — and a wrong one — of all the many assumptions you have made.
Belief is personal, and that is where it belongs. I have neither the desire nor the intention of changing your belief. If your belief brings you happiness, and fulfillment, and peace; then it works for you. But while that is YOUR truth, be aware that it might not be a universal truth.
They went to a party. Did you see the pics? I have never been to an adult Halloween party that wasn’t racier. False morality? What the heck are you talking about? Some people went to a party, big deal. Where on Uke TV do they broadcast full nudity? You know, the weird, full nudity, pervo crap your hero has on video? You globohomo/neocons put on a real show doing your backflips to protect everything involved in your unprovoked, murderous neocon misadventure.
Okay, so you do understand that there are two ways to believe in a thing.
For the sake of clarity, we can label the type of belief having to do with trust and devotion as Type A.
We’ll call belief in the fact of a matter Type B.
There are a couple of foundational flaws in your argument. The first is your assumption that your belief about spiritual belief itself is a Type B argument, but the truth is it’s Type A. Your emotional opposition to the idea of Type A spiritual belief brought you to conclude it’s not a sound belief because of the fact that it’s Type A.
But why would your own emotional belief not be subject to the same refutation?
You’re the pervert’s big fan, you tell me what sick videos he’s putting out now. The last revulsive thing I saw him do was going to DC and sodomizing the American taxpayer. The most reprehensible part was group act performed on us by Zelensky and all your neocon fellow travelers in congress. You might think it’s “just tiring” but he finds the energy to keep pumping us.
This marcusmaximus is a thickheaded person that no one can penetrate because he is a useful idiot who believes he knows it all. Nothing moves him from his laser focus upon the evils of Putin & Russia. He can't see the evil in his own backyard or the evils this nation has engaged in.
I sometimes wish I hadn't seen the evil that exists, and that the evil is just as bad as the evil the USSR actually had possessed. But then I am a realist, who sees the facts. It broke my heart to see the truth about the nation I love & cherish. This is why the Democrats always say the US has never been a great nation. They are wrong of course, but like everything else, they are tearing down that reality & have been actively doing do for decades. But Marcus is such a useful idiot, he doesn't even see that reality. Problem is he can't distinguish who are the good guys & who are the bad guys. Which is why he will continue playing the useful idiot for the bad guys, and will call us names & claim we are the bad guys. He believes we are the ones gaslighting him, because he believes Biden is a good guy, apparently.
It will take the falling of this nation, which he doesn't fathom as even a possibility. It's too bad too, because he is probably a decent person, but is also incapable of seeing reality.
He thinks we are all trying to support Russia & Putin, but he can't tell you why he believes that. The reason he can't believe us, is because he totally lacks any critical thinking skills, & would much rather buy into fairytales, than face reality. I have friends that do the same thing.
Denial is a coping method. I'm sure you've heard of parents who lost their child but can't accept it was their child who they found deceased, so they cope by denying it was their child.
BTW marcusmaximus, who are you supporting for 2024? You failed to answer that. is it DeSantis, Haley, Vivek or one of the other rans? All I know is, it can't be Trump.
You believe what you want to believe. You do so at your own risk. I can do nothing about that, you have to make that journey on your own. I won't even try to make you believe. If you want to hold onto your emotional beliefs as being the truth I could never make you understand the truths realized by spiritual belief. All I can tell you s that it is real, and it is life changing.
I hope you will find it, because that is the only way you will ever comprehend & understand what I am trying to convey. The best I can hope for is that you become curious enough to seek out the truth for yourself. I wish you the best & I pray you will find it for yourself.
Any chance of you packing up your government papers and getting yourself over to lend Zelenskyy a hand? Perhaps a taste of real war will take the starch out of you.
Any chance of you visiting Ukraine? Perhaps a real taste of Putin’s Stalinist genocide of the Ukrainian people will cause some personal reflection and promote a more healthy leisure time hobby in your retirement?
I will vote for President Trump of course.
Well, I will give you credit for that, burt you are still a useful idiot, and are hurting Trump should he make it back into office.
BS. Trump will be in the best position for negotiations next January with the weakest Russia possible.
Never forget, Biden gave Putin the green light to invade Ukraine in a “minor incursion” and Putin and his crappy military screwed up the deal.
And the Biden crime family took more money in bribes from the Moscow mayor’s wife than from Burisma. And she still remains exempt from U.S. sanctions.
You are unhinged.
You got the vapors over a TV skit performed by a professional cast; and gave a pass to a private party where there were some scantily-clad guests. They were both pretty tame, all things considered; and neither bothered me: The first was entertainment (not my taste; but obviously it appealed to others); the second was about what one might expect to see at a college house party.
But, YOU got your dander up over the former, because you have an unhealthy fixation on Zelensky, and will criticize him at the drop of a hat, no matter what he is doing.
And THAT, kid, is why I said you had a false morality.
Perhaps you should know that Biden wanted Putin to invade, for the game plan was to use Ukraine for the proxy war, and the Ukrainian men as the weapons fodder.
But you are a useful idiot who can't see the truth and refuse to accept the truth. It's always the other person who is wrong, regardless who many are arrayed against you, or that the support for Ukraine has dwindled to the point that the majority of Americans have now stopped supporting Ukraine.
Because they were at least smart enough to realize that nine million illegal aliens allowed into this nation has negatively impacted them.
But you haven't caught a clue.
Shame on you, you are helping no one but those who have desired to destroy this nation to usher in evil.
When that happens, you will finally learn who was telling you the unvarnished truth.
President Trump has talked about leverage in negotiations throughout his entire.
Weakest Russia = Greatest Leverage For President Trump’s negotiations next January.
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