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What the Tech: Is your SmartTV spying on you?
WILX-TV10 ^ | By Jamey Tucker Published: Jul. 21, 2023 at 6:50 PM CDT

Posted on 12/18/2023 8:20:02 AM PST by Red Badger

LANSING, Mich. (WILX) - Smart TVs are a real bargain these days and prices keep dropping. Despite TV’s getting better with more functionality, brighter pictures, and more features, prices for some TVs have dropped thousands of dollars in the past few years. Why? The reason is also the answer to the question “are smart TVs spying on us?”

In a manner of speaking, smart TVs do watch us while we watch TV. But not how you might think. Most TVs do not have cameras with the exception of many SAMSUNG models but even those sets aren’t actually watching you through the cameras.

The reason prices have dropped is that manufacturers can sell TVs at a loss because of “post-purchase monetization.” That means manufacturers continue to earn revenue for as long as you own and use the TV by gathering and selling information and data to advertisers.

Smart TVs track what people are watching, how long they watch certain programs, movies, and sporting events, and even what they search for with the remotes.

Let’s say you watch a lot of sports. Manufacturers share that information with advertisers who can target sports fans with specific ads they’re likely interested in. Since the ads target a specific audience, those ads are more valuable and can be sold at a higher price to advertisers.

Before you worry too much, the information gathered is not tied to a person’s name. But if you’re not using a VPN to hide your IP address, it could be tied to every computer, device, and TV connected to your home’s WiFi and internet connection.

That makes it very possible that an advertiser could target you with ads based on what you watch on TV with specific ads on social media, internet browser, and email.

It’s all about gathering information to sell targeted ads to people interested in what the advertiser is selling.

If that is TMI (too much information) being shared for your comfort, you can turn off data collection on many TVs. Go into your TV settings and look for “privacy”, then turn off “data tracking”, or turn on “limit tracking”. The exact language is going to vary from one TV brand to the other.

Or, if you’re really concerned you can unplug the TV from the internet that will prevent any information being gathered and shared. But your TV will lose all functionality of a smart TV and cannot connect to any streaming service.

To find out if your TV has a camera, consult the user’s manual.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: privacy; smarttv; surveillance; television
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To: Red Badger

This isn’t about just devices. It’s products like www.segment.com - they provide software libraries for Android/iOS based devices (so includes TV’s) so that analytics & data tracking can be baked into any application.

I’m currently working with source code using this, the application is for thermostat control over wifi.

How many of your applications are tracking you? My guess is most of them.


21 posted on 12/18/2023 9:18:08 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Dr. Sivana

See my post #21.

It’s not so much the OS, it’s the applications....although not having internet access on goes a long way.


22 posted on 12/18/2023 9:20:02 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I’m wondering... I use Roku. If I turn off the TV Wifi, I think the Roku would still work. (But I bet the Roku stick is doing the same thing...)


23 posted on 12/18/2023 9:22:01 AM PST by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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To: Red Badger

We’re being monetized. And we’re paying for it.


24 posted on 12/18/2023 9:37:48 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Red Badger

My “smart” (ahem) TV is rarely used. It’s usually unplugged, and it’s not connected to the internet.


25 posted on 12/18/2023 9:43:07 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Red Badger

They get no valid data from me. My TV is on 24/7 and I usually have no idea what is showing. I just like the white noise in the background, especially when sleeping.


26 posted on 12/18/2023 9:56:42 AM PST by Zack Attack (✔)
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To: Red Badger

“Is your SmartTV spying on you?”

no ... my smart tv is disconnected from the internet and used only as a dumb monitor ... however, i have no doubt my roku box and satellite box are spying on me; however, they can report only what i watch ...


27 posted on 12/18/2023 10:04:04 AM PST by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: dfwgator

The real Elvis did it with a .45.


28 posted on 12/18/2023 10:07:47 AM PST by Laslo Fripp (Semper Fidelis)
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To: HeadOn
If I turn off the TV Wifi, I think the Roku would still work. (But I bet the Roku stick is doing the same thing...)

Some TVs have built-in ROKU. For those you need TV WIFI on. The ROKU stick is its own thing. It would work with an HDMI "dumb" noon-TV monitor. And yes, you can bet ROKU is collecting data.
29 posted on 12/18/2023 10:27:12 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: catnipman

>...however, they can report only what I watch ...<

That’s what they want you to think...................🤦‍♂️😉😎


30 posted on 12/18/2023 10:37:52 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

If someone has a desperate need to keep tabs on an old boring homesteader they really need to get a life!


31 posted on 12/18/2023 11:02:48 AM PST by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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To: No Party Affiliation
You don’t even wanna know what your cell phone is sharing.

Onion/Tor browser fixes that.

32 posted on 12/18/2023 12:05:45 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The Truth is like a lion. You don't need to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself.)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
 
 
I know several people who have had the same experience. They hadn't searched for anything on the internet nor emailed or DM'd about it, was completely verbal. Am going to guess that the Google voice-activated app was responsible - it would hear something, then run with it all on its own.
 
 

33 posted on 12/18/2023 1:17:36 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I got an LG with NO ANDROID/GOOGLE to avoid that. It has WebOS instead...."

They all have a Linux kernel. And WebOS can be rooted, just like Android. https://rootmy.tv/

34 posted on 12/18/2023 1:25:38 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Snowden made the case that no software can save you—one layer is hack is the hardware in the factory.


35 posted on 12/18/2023 1:29:23 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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To: lapsus calami

Has to be something like that. As others have pointed out, the phone has to be listening all the time so it can hear you say, “Hey, Google,” or whatever.


36 posted on 12/18/2023 1:40:44 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
 
 
They probably have the AI tuned with the ability to key in on certain combinations of words or phrases without deliberate and permitted input from the target that are then passed through the system into a personalized marketing campaign. Another scandal in waiting, when hard confirmation of that tactic surfaces there's gonna be the usual wash-rinse-repeat of public outrage, investigation, hearings, lawsuits, sanctioning and so forth.
 
 

37 posted on 12/18/2023 1:54:32 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: lapsus calami

For all the good that’ll do. TV stations aren’t supposed to turn up the volume of commercials, either, for about the last 60 or 70 years.


38 posted on 12/18/2023 2:49:41 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Paal Gulli
They all have a Linux kernel. And WebOS can be rooted, just like Android. https://rootmy.tv/

Of course, but Android/Google is built from the ground up to be part of an enormous data mining machine in a way that plain Linux is not.
39 posted on 12/18/2023 2:59:39 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: 1Old Pro

I talk on my android phone and will soon see programs related on what I talked about on the Youtube channel I watch thru the Roku box. Also shows up on the computer at Youtube.


40 posted on 12/18/2023 10:51:32 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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