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Update from Ukraine | The Worst Army in the World Fails again | Putin wants more blood
Youtube.com ^ | 12-16-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 12/16/2023 11:12:31 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Update from Ukraine | The Worst Army in the World Fails again | Putin wants more blood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1V2r9Q8itA

Militaryland news: Invasion Day 658 – Summary. The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 9th December 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-654-summary/

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To: Petrosius
Ukrainians have the same right to live free as any other nations. Russia needs to go home and end its attempt to resubjugate Ukraine.

Ukraine could have let disenfranchised regions secede, but instead chose war. Peace was not wanted
61 posted on 12/16/2023 2:10:46 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Petrosius

Are you certain it is that black and white?

Regardless, there remain too many who still want more blood.


62 posted on 12/16/2023 2:11:28 PM PST by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-A)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Ukraine could have let disenfranchised regions secede, but instead chose war. Peace was not wanted

Those regions did not secede, they were seized by Russia. Nor were they disenfranchised. They could have participated in the following elections if it were not for Russian occupation. Enough with the Russian propaganda. It is Russia who chose war over peace.

63 posted on 12/16/2023 2:15:36 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: EasySt
Are you certain it is that black and white?

Simple answer: yes. Don't make it out to be more complicated than it really is. Putin had said for years that he thought it was a mistake for Lenin to recognize Ukraine's right to independence. He just waited for a period of U.S. weakness under Biden to correct that mistake.

Regardless, there remain too many who still want more blood.

The only ones who are pushing for more blood are the Russians and their supporters. Russia goes home and this all stops. It really is that simple.

64 posted on 12/16/2023 2:20:35 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

context...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/three-ukrainian-officials-swear-under-oath-that-ukraine-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election-against-donald-trump-video/


65 posted on 12/16/2023 2:20:38 PM PST by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-A)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Early afternoon Ukraine Propaganda Thread brought to you by Denys Davydov and Mommy Dearest.

CNN: UKRAINE HAS HAD A TERRIBLE WEEK.[ Link Below]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/analysis-ukraine-has-had-a-terrible-week-blame-the-us-and-the-eu/ar-AA1lAfmlThe

CNN. An Actual News Organization

Not like Denys Davydov who lives large in Switzerland, who is not a Journalist.
Is not with a Credible News Organization. Who is not embedded with Ukie Troops on the ground.

I believe a real News Organization vs a Ukraine draft dodging Citizen Journalist.


66 posted on 12/16/2023 2:22:35 PM PST by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: EasySt

And what does that have to do with the false contention that certain Ukrainian provinces voted to secede rather than having been militarily seized by Russia?


67 posted on 12/16/2023 2:25:20 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
Those regions did not secede, they were seized by Russia. Nor were they disenfranchised.

If what you say were true, why did Euromaiden Revolutionaries overthrow Yanukovich rather than vote him out?
68 posted on 12/16/2023 2:26:53 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Petrosius
Calling this a “civil war” shows that you have no real understanding of what is going on.

Are you Vindman, or his brother?

69 posted on 12/16/2023 2:42:33 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Petrosius

It does little good to point to that, which isn’t even a contention I have put forth by the way, given all the other provocation going on. That’s what.

Peace was on the table. Signed and agreed to, even. On a promise Ukraine would not join NATO.

So who wants NATO right up against every Russian Border until the nukes start flying?

Who wants and needs World War 3 in order to maintain their new world “Order”?


70 posted on 12/16/2023 2:47:56 PM PST by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-A)
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To: EasySt
Peace was on the table. Signed and agreed to, even. On a promise Ukraine would not join NATO.

Except that Russia reneged in Minsk II by not withdrawing its forces from Donbas and handing over the border to Ukrainian control, and by blocking the referendum that Ukraine had planed. If this is all about NATO expansion, then let Russia agree to withdrawal in exchange for Ukrainian neutrality. No? I did not think so.

71 posted on 12/16/2023 2:56:02 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Putin has unlimited designs on Ukraine. The pro-Russia crowd stinks, and I don’t care how they rationalize their position.


72 posted on 12/16/2023 3:01:06 PM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
If what you say were true, why did Euromaiden Revolutionaries overthrow Yanukovich rather than vote him out?

Because he was about to renege on the previously agreed EU-Ukraine agreement and hand over Ukraine to Russian control. A little fact that Russian apologists conveniently always ignore. It is also a fact that was removed by vote of the democratically elected parliament and that a new election for the president was immediately called. The Russian occupied areas could have participated in this and the following election if it were not for the Russian occupation.

73 posted on 12/16/2023 3:02:18 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: ransomnote

The Russian army isn’t defeating anyone. Putin is a clown with dreams of empire, and his defenders are making fools of themselves.


74 posted on 12/16/2023 3:03:47 PM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Hah! Running out of logical arguments you had to resort to a personal attack. It just shows the weakness of your position.


75 posted on 12/16/2023 3:04:05 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Sacajaweau

Why do you waste your time supporting the dumbass Putin?


76 posted on 12/16/2023 3:04:40 PM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Petrosius

Of course, it’s a Civil War. There is no history of Ukraine, being an independent country, most the people speak Russian. It’s been part of the Soviet Union for 70 years and the fallout from the Soviet Union is still not over, as in the Ukraine. It’s none of our concern, anybody that thinks it is, should go there and help, not post their BS and propaganda here and this says nothing about whether Russia is good or bad, or whether Ukraine is good or bad. It should be noted, though that Ukraine has canceled elections, canceled, political parties, canceled, religious groups, and is now gelled ahead of their largest religious denomination great track record for somebody that people want to defend.


77 posted on 12/16/2023 3:07:16 PM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Yes, mommy is also our Axis Sally...

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78 posted on 12/16/2023 3:07:24 PM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Being that she’s a UMC “reverend”, I’d say there’s a COEXIST bumper sticker somewhere on her car.


79 posted on 12/16/2023 3:14:17 PM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: EasySt

NATO is going to be right up against Russia’s border, and it was Putin’s aggression that brought it about. Given Putin’s imperial intentions, NATO should be right up against Russia’s border.


80 posted on 12/16/2023 3:15:08 PM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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