Posted on 11/29/2023 10:50:08 AM PST by DallasBiff
Lexus and Toyota took the top spots for brand reliability, followed by Mini, Acura, Honda, and Subaru.
And while EVs are growing in popularity, CR’s members experience 79 percent MORE problems with their EVs compared to gas-powered cars. EV trouble spots include issues with charging, electric motors, and battery problems.
“Our members are reporting the same issues with most EVs as they are with vehicles that have been designed brand new from the ground up, whether they’re gas or electric. And EVs are about the newest technology out there,” Barry said. “And it’s taking a while, even for established carmakers to work through those growing pains.”
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Refuelling an EV is at best painful. A Rivian weighs 7000 pounds and about 4000 is battery. It takes days to refuel at home.
EV’s are expensive Crapmobiles for morons on a financial and environmental basis. Total waste of money and our taxes subsidize it in every aspect. If not the purchase price, Tax dollars support the everything. No road taxes, those refuel stations are built with tax money and they do twice as much damage to roads because of their weight.
Days if you’re on a Level 1 charger...but only an idiot would do that.
I for one don't want to go to a public charging station and spend an Hour or more after searching through all the broken charging stations to find one that works.
I don't mind the electricity part, it's the battery part that is bad and not to mention dangerous.The real idiots are the ones that park in their garage.
From what I've read going on road trips are almost impossible.
“It must kill Consumer Reports, to report the truth about EV’s.”
But it’s nice to see them being truthful.
To me, equal in importance to reliability is the ability of dealers and shops to make the repairs and get parts.
Perhaps cost is of slightly less importance to me because my EV would be new and on warranty for several years.
I have a Level 2 charger at home, and I installed myself, to code. I’ve owned two Teslas, including a first-gen Model S, and have taken cross-country trips. Driving cross-country, you’ll have to stop to charge, but the latest Tesla Superchargers are incredibly fast...no longer than stopping to buy gas, use the bathroom, and grab some fast food.
JD Powers 2023 data doesn’t exactly jive with CR. Probably the differences are what data they are looking for. JD Powers collects data which charts problems per 100 cars.
I saw a graph this morning about quality by car type. Not to surprising EV’s were horrible, and Plug in hybrids were worst. Regular non plug in hybrids like what Toyota uses in the Prius, Rav4 and Camry were excellent as were ICE cars
Not for me. Too much money for too little car.
It's a lot different than the period from 1900 to 1940 when the industry was brand new and there was little mass manufacturing base experience to draw upon. The speed of resolution of problems and technical advances in that period was incredible. And all without computers, CAD, CAM, 3D printed parts, ERP systems, and electronic communications, too.
How many decades will it take them to fix all the EV problems? Why isn't the experience of 120 years of auto manufacturing resolving all these problems quickly?
How will they fix the repair problem when a small crash damages your battery plant and makes it fire-prone?
How will they fix the problem of a small crash causing your insurance company to declare your car totaled?
How will they resolve the sky-high insurance premium problem? We all know the answer to that last one: the government will mandate that insurance rates for EVs must be the same as for ICE cars. Or the government will socialize that insurance premium problem and make all of us pay for it. Who cares about moral hazard? So even if you never buy an EV, you will be paying subsidies for their purchase, insurance premiums and recycling.
The costs of upgrading your residential electrical system to the power levels needed to charge an EV at anything over Level 1 (even Level1 may not be possible for many residences) is simply staggering. Heck, even most light industrial service sections need to be upgraded to supply the necessary charging power.
And that's if you are the only one in the service area who is upgrading. There are very few residential power grids capable of large scale upgrade to even Level 1 chargers. To do so would require major transformer and transmission line upgrades - as well as major upgrades to existing power plant infrastructure.
So the bottom line on 100% plug in EVs is that we cant get the power to the consumer due to transmission line (much of which is underground) and transformer infrastructure and even if we did, we do not have power plant capacity to generate the necessary electricity to supply the grid demand.
The last 2 days, FOX news has been reporting that EVs are piling up on dealer lots. People are not buying them. People are smarter than the government gives them credit for.
The government will have their ways. Higher gas taxes, increased Insurance Premiums on ICE vehicles, running Gas Stations out of business. They’ll have six ways to Sunday to force people onto EVs.
I hear the EV bikes are nice, except people are up in arms about using them on the local bike paths :)
I had to make no panel changes whatsoever, and that’s on a 22-year old house. Perhaps if you live in an old log cabin with screw-in glass fuses, you’ll have a problem, but any modern house should be able to handle it.
Your point about the overall capacity of the local grid in the case of mass adoption of EVs is valid, but I don’t get your point about Level 1 chargers. Do you live in an area of the USA where 110v, as used by Level 1, is unavailable? If so, what voltage do you have at the wall? Not sure what you’re trying to say.
Shitcanned that liberal rag decades ago after they hyped Øbowelcare.
Still remember how they tried to boost 4 and 6 cylinder cars by belittling anyone that wanted a v-8.
“And while EVs are growing in popularity,...”
Am I missing something?
200 amp panel? What’s your avg electric bill every month?
“It must kill Consumer Reports, to report the truth about EV’s.z’
my first thought as well ... you know, given that CR is ultra-hard-leftist ...
Any listing that puts Minis high on reliability ratings is not something I can take seriously. Those things are notoriously bad.
And Subarus... good cars in a lot of ways but head gasket failures are a matter of when, not if.
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