Roger Stone's Latest Conspiracy Theory: George H.W. Bush Behind Reagan Assassination Attempt

CBS PHILADELPHIA ^ | January 28, 2016. | CBS PHILADELPHIA

[JoeA]

Stone, during an interview with Rich Zeoli on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, claimed he has done research to have found a second gunman at the scene on the grounds of the Washington Hilton Hotel. . .

[Zathras]

I hear and have respected your opinion for a very long time.
An excellent point about Bush41.
Personally I don’t think anyone in the Bush Family is smart enough to pull this off.
I remember EXACTLY where I was when I heard Reagan was shot.
I35 and Highway 62 in Minneapolis interchange heading west.
Also remember where I was Nov 22, 1963 even though I was very young.

[Fury]

Re: 155 - thanks for the thoughtful post, a rarity on this thread.

[hoosierham]

No,I don’t. The photos are meaningless to me.I fail to understand the fixation on the photos.And I SERIOUSLY doubt any Bush would be the shooter;but manipulate someone else ,yes.

[ansel12]

It seems you guys have conflicting conspiracies.

That is a little like three patients who all think they are Napolean being placed in the same group session.

[mass55th]

"Answer my questions/statements, please.

You are second-guessing Trump on actions he took, when you have no intimate, or personal knowledge of the reason he made them. It's been sixty years since JFK was murdered by the CIA. I was a teenager when he was murdered. I don't need to have the documents released to know that. If you're expecting someone to go to prison if the truth is finally aired, forget it, because the people involved are either already dead, or are so old, they'll never be charged. At this point, it's a waste of energy to be upset with one person over something so stupid as releasing documents that won't tell anything new anyway.

[Dr. Franklin]

You forgot to fill us in on what HW and W were doing that day.

You might try asking W that question.

[Does so]

Yes, of course; however, if the “man on the roof” was tasked with shooting Reagan, why would he choose to use such a small caliber cartridge?

[Dr. Franklin]

Now let's use that smooth brain for a second and think...If he released files that seemed to indicate the Bushes, what would that do to the Bushes, even the "innocent" children, Jeb! and Duh-bya? And maybe Karl Rove, by extension?

If the general public were to conclude that G.H.W. Bush was involved in the JFK assassination, it would ruin the political brand which was so carefully manged with MSM cooperation. That would mean no more Jenna Bush on Today! selling soft fluff about the Bushes. It would mean the end of George P. Bush's political career, at least as a Republican. People might also conclude that our elections have been a sham for a decades, and that we are being governed by a handful of crime families pretending to have been democratically elected.

And if these files indicated LBJ, what would that do for his legacy? And (maybe) his programs by extension?

People might well conclude that LBJ's civil rights laws were intended to destroy the old Democratic base in the "Solid South" and enable the rise of first Nixon and then Reagan due to the political backlash against the new order. We also might conclude that the "Great Society" always was a sham.

And if the files indicated CIA involvement, what would that do for Trump's battle against the deep state?? Huh?

People might realize that the Deep State knows how to get rid of its enemies, and Trump's survival makes him a marked man. The same could be true of RFK, Jr.

[Right_Wing_Madman]

What would his alleged lying about not remembering where he was at the time mean anyway? That he was on the grassy knoll shooting at JFK? Where is he supposed to have been at that moment? That story is imbecilic on multiple levels.

Let's back up for a moment. The most compelling evidence so far that the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination is the deathbed confession of Howard Hunt, the former CIA officer, to his son, which was recorded on cassette tape. Hunt also gave some handwritten notes to his son regarding the assassination plot. The confession is summarized by the famous Rolling Stone article from April 2007:

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-last-confession-of-e-howard-hunt-76611/

Generally, if you believe Hunt's confession, then you believe the CIA was part of the assassination. If you think Hunt, or his son, is lying, then you think Oswald acted alone as the gunman. I believe Hunt's confession because it fits with other information we've discovered about the assassination. Here is one note Hunt gave to his son:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/assets/2020/11/1238.png

According to Hunt's account, the assassination order originated from LBJ. LBJ sent this order to Cord Meyer, a CIA agent whose wife had an affair with JFK. Later she was murdered, in a case that's never been solved. Hunt then drew a line to Bill Harvey, another CIA agent, and a line to David Morales, yet another CIA man and a well-known black-op specialist. And then Hunt connected to Morales' name, with a line, the framed words "French Gunman Grassy Knoll."

Hunt told his son there were two gunman in Dallas: Oswald and a "French gunman." This other gunman has been presumed to be the Corsican Mafia hitman, Lucien Sarti. The two gunman theory is consistent with JFK's bullet wounds and the impact of gunfire on the occupants of the presidential limousine in the Zapruder tape.

Also, of note, in the JFK document dump from the Trump administration six years ago, J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI director, wrote in a memo, two days after the assassination: "The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin.” So we have evidence that Hoover knew the assassination plot included more than Oswald.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OaWJIec-BU

Also, another important piece of evidence is the 1966 secret CIA memo that House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) discovered in 1978. It stated Hunt was acting chief of the CIA station in Mexico City at the same time Oswald visited Mexico City prior to the assassination. The memo also stated that "Hunt was in Dallas at the time of the assassination and that his presence there had to be kept secret."

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP91-00901R000500110022-0.pdf

Hunt did not tell his son he was in Dallas on the day of the assassination, but I believe he was there. Hunt told his son that he discussed the Kennedy assassination plot with Frank Sturgis, another CIA agent (who was also involved in Watergate), in a Miami hotel room. Hunt also told his son that Cord Meyer discussed the assassination plot with David Atlee Phillips, the CIA's Cuban operations chief in Miami at the time of JFK's death, and that Phillips met Oswald in Mexico City (see Rolling Stone article).

I belive Hunt was arrested by Dallas police immediately after assassination as part of the "Three Tramps." They were caught running away from the crime scene in the railyard behind the grassy knoll. I have examined the photographs of the three suspects and there is remarkable resemblance to Hunt, Sturgis, and Phillips (all CIA agents). You can examine the photographs of the three tramps and see for yourself.

So what does all this have to do with George Bush?

George Bush, in a signed affidavit on 21 September 1988, stated, "From September 1963 until February 1964 I worked at the CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY headquarters. My job responsibility was as a junior watch officer." In the sworn statement, Bush also states: "I was the junior person on duty at the time of the John F . Kennedy assassination." Got that? George Bush, himself, said he was on duty as a CIA watch officer at the time of the JFK assassination and the CIA was the conspirator of the assassination. So George Bush may have knowledge of the plot and his location during the assassination may be important.

Also, on 29 November 1963, one week after the assassination, J. Edgar Hoover wrote a memorandum, titled "ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, NOVEMBER 22, 1963" to the State Department describing the activities of "misguided anti-Castro Cubans” in Miami and how those activities relate to the JFK assassination. In the concluding paragraph, Hoover writes: "The substance of the forgoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. V.T. Forsyth of this Bureau.”

The day after the assassination, the FBI provides information of anti-Castro Cuban activities in Miami in relation to the JFK assassination to none other than George Bush! So else is in Miami? David Atlee Phillips was the CIA's Cuban operations chief in Miami. Howard Hunt lived in Miami at the time of the assassination and Hunt would later be arrested at the Watergate break-in 1972, leading a team of four Cubans. The Hoover memo established George Bush as a key figure for CIA Cuban operations in Miami and therefore, most likely had relationships with both Phillips and Hunt, who were in Dallas and directly involved in the JFK assassination.

Kitty Kelly, who was preparing Bush's biography, asked Bush where he was at the time of the JFK assassination, and Bush said he "couldn't recall." However, one hour and 15 minutes after the assassination (while on duty as a CIA watch officer), Bush called the FBI office in Houston and relayed information that James Parrot has been talking of killing the president in Houston. According to the FBI memo, prepared by SA Graham Kitchell, Bush identified himself as "President of Zapada Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas" and the FBI took the call from Tyler, Texas. According to the memo, Bush also stated that he "was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel, and return to his residence on 11-23-63."

The evidence shows that Bush was in Tyler, Texas at the time of the assassination, and that he proceeded to Dallas on the evening after the assassination. The Bush affidavit and Hoover memo can be found here:

https://aarclibrary.org/notices/Affidavit_of_George_William_Bush_880921.pdf

And the Kitchell memo is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bush_Sr_tip_on_JFK_1963.jpg

There is no direct evidence that ties George Bush to the Kennedy assassination, but there is circumstantial evidence. I believe it is more likely than not that George Bush was aware of the CIA plot to kill the president. And one more thing: check out the smirk from Bush when talks about the JFK assassination at Gerald Ford's funeral - a tell that he's lying. And George Bush suspiciously goes out of his way to remind us that the Warren Commission report is final say and authority of the JFK assassination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOkTtpzoulc

[ansel12]

It is your fantasy, since they weren’t there anyway why don’t you just say what you think they were doing if they were?

[ansel12]

“”””Got that? George Bush, himself, said he was on duty as a CIA watch officer at the time of the JFK assassination””””

That was George William Bush, not George H.W. Bush, a different man that the Nation magazine got wrong.

[Dr. Franklin]

The evidence shows that Bush was in Tyler, Texas at the time of the assassination, and that he proceeded to Dallas on the evening after the assassination.

No the evidence shows that Bush claimed to have been calling from Tyler, TX. It doesn't prove that he was there. There was no caller ID as such in 1963.

[Dr. Franklin]

That was George William Bush, not George H.W. Bush, a different man that the Nation magazine got wrong.

Col. Fletcher Prouty (USAF) was involved in air transport for clandestine CIA operations. He identified G.H.W. Bush as the CIA guy involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion. "George William Bush" appears to be as credible as Pierre Delecto. Good luck proving that.

[ansel12]

It has already been proven, for your fantasy to work it is you who has to overcome the facts.

[Captainpaintball]

People might realize that the Deep State knows how to get rid of its enemies, and Trump's survival makes him a marked man. The same could be true of RFK, Jr.

He should have released it, and explained to the people that he is now a marked man. And that he may be the only part of the Feral Government (and state goats.) the people can trust.

I hear rumors RFK jr. is CIA.

[Dr. Franklin]

It has already been proven, for your fantasy to work it is you who has to overcome the facts.

So who was the "independent oil operator from Houston, Texas" arrested coming from the Dal-Tex Building across from the Texas School Book Depository?

" Jim [Garrison] also asked me about the arrests made in Dealey Plaza that day. I told him I knew of twelve arrests, one in particular made by R. E. Vaughn of the Dallas Police Department. The man Vaughn arrested was coming from the Dal-Tex Building across from the Texas School Book Depository. The only thing which Vaughn knew about him was that he was an independent oil operator from Houston, Texas. The prisoner was taken from Vaughn by Dallas Police detectives and that was the last that he saw or heard of the suspect.
Incidentally, there are no records of any arrests, either by the Dallas Police Department or the Sheriff’s Office, made in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963. Very strange! Any and all arrests made during my eight years as an officer were recorded. It may not have been entered as a record with the Identification Bureau but a report was always typed and a permanent record kept—if only in our case files. A report on any questioning shows a reason for your action and protects you against false arrest. I am saying that there is absolutely no record in the case files or any place else."
When They Kill A President By Roger Craig

Roger Craig was a Deputy Sheriff in Dallas at the time of the assassination of President Kennedy.

[Dr. Franklin]

“At least one man arrested immediately after the shooting had come running out of the Dal-Tex Building and offered no explanation for his presence there. Local authorities hardly could avoid arresting him because of the clamor of the onlookers. He was taken to the Sheriff’s office, where he was held for questioning. However, the Sheriff’s office made no record of the questions asked this suspect, if any were asked; nor did it have a record of his name. Later two uniformed police officers escorted him out of the building to the jeers of the waiting crowd. They put him in a police car, and he was driven away. Apparently this was his farewell to Dallas, for he simply disappeared forever.”
Jim Garrison, On the Trail of the Assassins, p. 238

[Overtaxed]

I was 3 years old and don’t remember. I was probably down for nappy time.

[SisterK]

if the “man on the roof” was tasked with shooting Reagan, why would he choose to use such a small caliber cartridge?

22 can be very lethal

[Fury]

You are second-guessing Trump on actions he took, when you have no intimate, or personal knowledge of the reason he made them. It's been sixty years since JFK was murdered by the CIA. I was a teenager when he was murdered. I don't need to have the documents released to know that. If you're expecting someone to go to prison if the truth is finally aired, forget it, because the people involved are either already dead, or are so old, they'll never be charged. At this point, it's a waste of energy to be upset with one person over something so stupid as releasing documents that won't tell anything new anyway.

Oh, good grief. You are what? Being critical of someone on FR second-guessing President Trump? LOL! It happens to all politicians on FR.

As far as this issue? President Trump is the one who said he would declassify the remaining records, then did not. No one compelled him to say that.

It's perfectly reasonable to wonder why that occurred, or be critical of the decision either way (depending on what side of the issue you stand).

President Trump did the same think with "Lock her up" re: Hillary. Except there he fundraised off of that, and after being elected decided to not investigate her.