Luke 17: 28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
To: Jan_Sobieski
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
2 posted on
11/20/2023 1:48:09 PM PST by
Paul46360
(Nuk'em all let GOD sort them out!)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Is it a Philadelphia Church or a Laodicean Church?
3 posted on
11/20/2023 1:50:35 PM PST by
Jim W N
(MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
To: Jan_Sobieski
2-3% of the population isn’t sustainable. All these fake churches will close. Screw them.
4 posted on
11/20/2023 2:02:01 PM PST by
HYPOCRACY
(This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
To: Jan_Sobieski
What choice? To choose the flag is to not be a church.
5 posted on
11/20/2023 2:02:03 PM PST by
chajin
("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
To: Jan_Sobieski
The two ‘areas of apparent worship’ should not be seen as anywhere near parallel or equal in application.
Agape love is the highest form there is. This form includes love from God to us, from us to God, and from one person to all of mankind.
This contrasts with Philia; brotherly love,
Or Philautia, self love.
Eros is the physical love or sexual desire.
Sometimes, a self sacrificing love, but most often
a time consuming, self indulgence.
To: Jan_Sobieski
We’re Orthodox Presbyterian No sign of weakening and quite the opposite. Previously UCC and before that Lutheran. Would never go back.
To: Jan_Sobieski
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. What God considers His church will endure. Pretty sure it WON'T be the Church of What's Happening Now. Why go to a church that is up to its eyeballs in blasphemy? We have a long-term, retired professor in our seminary who asks the question,"who is going to be responsible to make the determination that someone is a practicing homosexual?" I think its the wrong question. One way or another, the practice will come to light. If they are legitimately repentant, they can stay. If they openly condone the lifestyle, they can't stay. I don't think we would tolerate an active serial adulterer or child molester in our midst. But we are all sinners. We all must repent. Sincere repentance is a vital, essential consideration.
9 posted on
11/20/2023 2:17:31 PM PST by
RatRipper
To: Jan_Sobieski
Those who choose the Buggery Banner cease to be Christian.
10 posted on
11/20/2023 2:18:34 PM PST by
NorthMountain
(... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
To: Jan_Sobieski
No.. Even the sons of thunders momma was told to be silent.
God doesn’t change. You cannot have Jesus and the favorite sin.
11 posted on
11/20/2023 2:21:54 PM PST by
Karliner
(Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Talk about a clumsy writer. The United Methodist Church is losing large numbers of congregations because the congregations do not wish to follow the United Methodist Church’s leaders acceptance and promotion of wokism and rejection of scriptural teachings.
12 posted on
11/20/2023 2:23:47 PM PST by
odawg
To: Jan_Sobieski
It's not a choice. If there is a rainbow flag, avoid it like the plague.
18 posted on
11/20/2023 2:54:56 PM PST by
Myrddin
To: Jan_Sobieski
Revelation 2:18-29 “And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write: ‘The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze. “‘I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first. But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality.
Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works, and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works.
But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden. Only hold fast what you have until I come. The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’
20 posted on
11/20/2023 2:59:51 PM PST by
metmom
(He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
To: Jan_Sobieski
You’re not going to see a LGBTQ flag in my church.
You will see a lot of people wearing I STAND WITH ISRAEL shirts.
And a lot of people wearing crucifixes.
And a lot of people carrying Bibles.
21 posted on
11/20/2023 3:00:56 PM PST by
gitmo
(If your biography doesn't match your theology, what good is it?)
To: Jan_Sobieski
My denomination hasn’t fallen, and I doubt they will. Church of God, Cleveland, Tennessee. Our local Methodist Church disaffiliated from United Methodist “Church” over it, as did over 6,000 other Methodist churches.
To: Jan_Sobieski
Five years ago (on Easter Sunday when they knew people were less likely to get up and walk out) my old congregation announced that they were going to start flying the rainbow rag.
Haven’t set foot in the building since. Nor have a lot of folks, as the word is that their finances are in the hole and sinking fast.
28 posted on
11/20/2023 3:35:34 PM PST by
S. D. Waters
(My life is an open book, but it's badly written and I die at the end)
To: Jan_Sobieski; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ...
Mainline Protestantism has, for the most part, cast its lot in with the LGBT movement, with their clergy serving primarily as a convenient way for LGBT activists to accuse pastors who still hold to Christian orthodoxy of bigotry. (If those Christians can cave and still call themselves Christian, why can’t you?) These days, you can identify however you want—you can even call yourself a Christian while backing sex changes for minors and championing the destruction of the biblical sexual ethic. Actually, Rome has overall been drifting South for decades, thus its TradCath sects, and it is so-called Protestantism" that is closest to Rome that is the liberal branch, reflective of liberal views on the integrity and authority of Scripture. And those who most strongly esteemed as the accurate and wholly inspired word of God, with its basic literal hermeneutic, have long testified to being far more conservative and unified in polled core beliefs and values than Catholics overall. Yet even this class, esp. the young, are increasingly liberal.
29 posted on
11/20/2023 3:35:58 PM PST by
daniel1212
(Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Mainline Protestantism...I'm glad I'm not a mainline type of Prot!
31 posted on
11/20/2023 6:36:38 PM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Christian churches are facing a choice: the cross of Christ or the rainbow flagWhat's next???
Mormonism??
Responses showed significant emotional distress, dramatic loss of trust in Church leaders,
and a dramatic decline in Church Activity as a result of the policy.
Individual stories help us to understand where and how different LGBT Mormons find hope,
and why discussion about the Church can be so polarizing.
32 posted on
11/20/2023 6:40:19 PM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Jan_Sobieski
For sometime I’ve speculated how antichrist could be both a Muslim mahdi and homosexual and what I’ve come up with is this: by using the already in place Islamic doctrine of abrogation he could declare a poofter and trans friendly (or even mandatory) version of Islam and the apostate west will flock to the Mosques to take whatever mark is asked of them.
This seems necessary because the apostate west will not unite unless they can take their beloved homosexuals with them.
As for a Muslim being the antichrist, consider this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvJvwgJ_Ksg
35 posted on
11/20/2023 8:44:38 PM PST by
Rurudyne
(Standup Philosopher)
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