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Christian churches are facing a choice: the cross of Christ or the rainbow flag?
Life Site News ^ | 11/20/2023 | Jonathon Van Maren

Posted on 11/20/2023 1:45:49 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

In the coming decade, Carl Trueman wrote recently, every single church still calling itself Christian will face a choice: Do we follow Scriptural revelation, or the Sexual Revolution? Catechism, or culture? In the world, or of the world? The cross, or the rainbow flag?

Mainline Protestantism has, for the most part, cast its lot in with the LGBT movement, with their clergy serving primarily as a convenient way for LGBT activists to accuse pastors who still hold to Christian orthodoxy of bigotry. (If those Christians can cave and still call themselves Christian, why can’t you?) These days, you can identify however you want—you can even call yourself a Christian while backing sex changes for minors and championing the destruction of the biblical sexual ethic.

Trueman’s prediction is already proving prescient—one by one, every Christian denomination is facing the choice, and most are splitting over it. Kristin Kobes du Mez, the mainstream media’s favorite Christian Reformed scholar, has become gay-affirming. Andy Stanley, the well-known evangelical pastor of North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Georgia, recently hosted a conference affirming LGBT ideology over Christian orthodoxy. For those who want a bit of religion and the Sexual Revolution at the same time, there is a growing number of options.

We saw this recently at the Church of England’s General Synod, where clergy vote to allow standalone services for gay and lesbian couples which are referred to as “blessings” after same-sex “marriage” ceremonies, the latest Anglican attempt to have it both ways. Formally, they still reject same-sex “marriage”—much to the chagrin and outright outrage of the more revolutionary clergy—but bit by bit, their theological real estate is being colonized under the rainbow flag…

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TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: apostasy; bible; christian; christianity; church; churches; corruption; genderdysphoria; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lgbtqi; rainbowflag
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Luke 17: 28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
1 posted on 11/20/2023 1:45:49 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

2 Timothy 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.


2 posted on 11/20/2023 1:48:09 PM PST by Paul46360 (Nuk'em all let GOD sort them out!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Is it a Philadelphia Church or a Laodicean Church?


3 posted on 11/20/2023 1:50:35 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

2-3% of the population isn’t sustainable. All these fake churches will close. Screw them.


4 posted on 11/20/2023 2:02:01 PM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

What choice? To choose the flag is to not be a church.


5 posted on 11/20/2023 2:02:03 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The two ‘areas of apparent worship’ should not be seen as anywhere near parallel or equal in application.
Agape love is the highest form there is. This form includes love from God to us, from us to God, and from one person to all of mankind.

This contrasts with Philia; brotherly love,
Or Philautia, self love.

Eros is the physical love or sexual desire.
Sometimes, a self sacrificing love, but most often
a time consuming, self indulgence.


6 posted on 11/20/2023 2:02:09 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Paul46360

2 Timothy 4:3-4 reads like the NYT!!!...
I am SO THANKFUL for the Word of God that was written ages ago, documenting PERFECTLY what it would look like in the end.... what a great ROAD MAP!!!

Even so COME QUICKLY , Lord Jesus!!


7 posted on 11/20/2023 2:08:56 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

We’re Orthodox Presbyterian No sign of weakening and quite the opposite. Previously UCC and before that Lutheran. Would never go back.


8 posted on 11/20/2023 2:16:53 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo ( )
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And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

What God considers His church will endure. Pretty sure it WON'T be the Church of What's Happening Now. Why go to a church that is up to its eyeballs in blasphemy? We have a long-term, retired professor in our seminary who asks the question,"who is going to be responsible to make the determination that someone is a practicing homosexual?" I think its the wrong question. One way or another, the practice will come to light. If they are legitimately repentant, they can stay. If they openly condone the lifestyle, they can't stay. I don't think we would tolerate an active serial adulterer or child molester in our midst. But we are all sinners. We all must repent. Sincere repentance is a vital, essential consideration.

9 posted on 11/20/2023 2:17:31 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Those who choose the Buggery Banner cease to be Christian.


10 posted on 11/20/2023 2:18:34 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

No.. Even the sons of thunders momma was told to be silent.

God doesn’t change. You cannot have Jesus and the favorite sin.


11 posted on 11/20/2023 2:21:54 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Talk about a clumsy writer. The United Methodist Church is losing large numbers of congregations because the congregations do not wish to follow the United Methodist Church’s leaders acceptance and promotion of wokism and rejection of scriptural teachings.


12 posted on 11/20/2023 2:23:47 PM PST by odawg
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And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus is the Rock (Petra = Mountain) on which Peter (Petros = Pebble) helped build the church. Churches that build on other foundations are false churches.
13 posted on 11/20/2023 2:26:12 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jim W N

Amen!


14 posted on 11/20/2023 2:27:34 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

A Big Amen to that Truth!


15 posted on 11/20/2023 2:36:04 PM PST by patriot torch (..)
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To: Jim W N

That’s a question worth asking!


16 posted on 11/20/2023 2:52:53 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Karliner

Well said.


17 posted on 11/20/2023 2:53:08 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Jan_Sobieski
It's not a choice. If there is a rainbow flag, avoid it like the plague.
18 posted on 11/20/2023 2:54:56 PM PST by Myrddin
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It's not a choice. If there is a rainbow flag, avoid it like the plague.

I do as well. As a white older male apparently I am not as welcome. Being gay seems to being some special privileges, everyone wants your business even though you are roughly 4% of the population.

19 posted on 11/20/2023 2:58:56 PM PST by New Perspective (As Leonard Cohen said once in an interview, “You won’t like what comes after America”)
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Revelation 2:18-29 “And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write: ‘The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze.

“‘I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first. But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality.

Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works, and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works.

But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden. Only hold fast what you have until I come. The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’

20 posted on 11/20/2023 2:59:51 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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