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Viva Las Vegas: MLB owners unanimously approve A's move from Oakland
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/16/2023 | Bill Shaikin

Posted on 11/16/2023 8:19:21 AM PST by fhayek

In 1901, when the American League was founded, the Philadelphia Athletics were one of the eight charter franchises. The A’s moved to Kansas City in 1955 and to Oakland in 1968, and they are on the move again.

No major league team has called four cities home, but the A’s are about to write a new and bittersweet page in baseball’s history book. Major league owners voted unanimously Thursday morning to approve the A’s move to Las Vegas, meaning a city that celebrated four World Series championships and nurtured Hall of Famers Reggie Jackson, Rickey Henderson, Catfish Hunter, Rollie Fingers and Dennis Eckersley soon will find itself without a baseball team to call its own.

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To: aquila48
Oakland used to be the home of three pro franchises - the Raiders, the Warriors and the A’s - all gone.

A total of 10 championships while in the city of Oakland. Four each for the A's and the Warriors, and two for the Raiders.

21 posted on 11/16/2023 8:50:02 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Here in Pennsylvania I encounter the homeless in York County as well I even have a job cleaning outside that includes cleaning up after the homeless to some extent.


22 posted on 11/16/2023 8:53:51 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: fhayek

Back when I lived there in the late ‘90s, it was too dangerous to go to games.
Only a fool with a death wish would go now.


23 posted on 11/16/2023 9:04:24 AM PST by Zathras
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To: fhayek

Much of Oakland is scary and dangerous, BUT this is still a stupid move. The Bay Area has a much larger population to support a team fanbase. And Oakland has really nice weather for baseball, and the fact is that the Coliseum site, with plenty of parking and freeway and BART access is such that fans can to a large extent parachute in and not really experience the worst of Oakland. Vegas has a relatively small population, and in the summer (i.e., baseball season) is ridiculously hot. Yeah, I guess they can do an air-conditioned indoor stadium or something, but that’s pretty lame.


24 posted on 11/16/2023 9:07:09 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: fhayek
Fourth time's charmed?

Philadelphia, Kansas City, Oakland, Las Vegas.

At least the names of the cities are diverse: Greek name, half-Indian/half-Latin name, English name, Spanish name.

25 posted on 11/16/2023 9:12:46 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: irishjuggler
I'd prefer that they stayed in Oakland, but I don't live in California any more. When I lived in the Bay Area I would take BART to the nearby stop and walk over to the Coliseum for the $2 bleacher seats for A's games.

Las Vegas metro area has more than 2.3 million people, more than 5 metro areas which have a MLB team. And people keep moving to Nevada (for reasons beyond me).

26 posted on 11/16/2023 9:17:24 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
And people keep moving to Nevada (for reasons beyond me).

That would be Californians who worked for the state of CA wanting to avoid CA state income taxes on their pensions.

27 posted on 11/16/2023 9:21:12 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Funny thing is, Las Vegas didn't even exist when the Philadelphia Athletics was established.
28 posted on 11/16/2023 9:27:58 AM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

sacramento has a AAA team. Time to step up.


29 posted on 11/16/2023 9:28:27 AM PST by coalminersson (since )
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To: fhayek

LOL! Well, they will be the first franchise to make THREE moves. Currently, they are tied with the Braves for TWO.


30 posted on 11/16/2023 9:30:30 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: nickcarraway

Oakland has now lost all its major league teams.

Well done Oakland! What a $hithole............


31 posted on 11/16/2023 9:34:21 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: Vigilanteman

Las Vegas will be their 4th move.

Philadelphia Athletics from 1901-1954 when they moved to Kansas City.

Kansas City Athletics from 1954-1967.

Oakland Athletics from 1967 until present.


32 posted on 11/16/2023 9:34:30 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: fhayek
Yes and no. It didn't become a city until 1905, but the Mormons established a fort and settlement there in 1855.
33 posted on 11/16/2023 9:36:02 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Pelham
No. It will be their 4th city. Philadelphia to Kansas City was their first move, Kansas City to Oakland was their second. Oakland to Las Vegas will be their third.

I do hope they will have an air-conditioned all indoor dome. Even construction crews (who start at or before 4 am) call it quitters in Las Vegas by noon in the summertime. The days get really brutal afterward.

34 posted on 11/16/2023 9:40:09 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: fhayek

Oakland is a ...fill in the blank___________.


35 posted on 11/16/2023 9:49:28 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: aquila48

Some of us remember the Philadelphia A’s, Washington Senators, Boston Braves, Chicago Cardinals, Baltimore Colts, St.Louis Browns, etc. But that was when America was still America.


36 posted on 11/16/2023 9:56:11 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: tflabo; fhayek; wardaddy

“Leftardism ruined Oakland - no surprise there.”

WWII gets to be the culprit. Demographic change began in Oakland starting with the war when the Navy brought in workers for its ammunition depot. That set in motion a demographic change that led to Oakland today.

The 1940 census shows Oakland to be 95.3% “white”. 2.8% “negro”. 1.9% “other”. By 1990 the city was 32.5% white, 43.9% black, 23.6% other.

The Left routine says “demographics is destiny” but when anyone else agrees it’s “racism”. Either way the numbers are what they are, and so is once pleasant Oakland.

http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/cities/Oakland40.htm


37 posted on 11/16/2023 9:56:41 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: irishjuggler

Of course the population is large. As the crow flies (flies over the bay) the Giants’ venue is less than 10
Miles away. Last time I was at the Coliseum 6 or 7 years ago, the parking lot was kissing cousins to not being paved, it was in such bad shape. I’ve done it in the past, but with crime in Oakland, I would take BART and use that pedestrian bridge to the Coliseum on a bet


38 posted on 11/16/2023 10:03:00 AM PST by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: Vigilanteman

“I do hope they will have an air-conditioned all indoor dome”

They will. There’s plenty of money in Vegas to do things right. They have had a strategy to make the city an entertainment destination rather than just a gambling mecca. And there’s been a lot of out-migration from SoCal to the Vegas suburbs.

A company named Brightline is building a privately owned high speed rail line that will connect Vegas to Apple Valley in SoCal. This should increase the already strong connection between the regions.


39 posted on 11/16/2023 10:03:19 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The Raiders, I guess, have done reasonably well in terms of selling tickets in LV, but the NFL is such a different animal compared to MLB. Including pre- and post- seasons, how many games is the average NFL team selling? Like 10 or 11? If you’re a fan of the Steelers or the Ravens or the Colts, and your team is playing a single game in Vegas, I can imagine someone like that flying into town in November and making a weekend out of it. With 162-game baseball season, and you’re a Rangers fan or Red Sox fan or an Orioles, are you going to fly into Vegas in the middle of 110-degree August to catch your team playing an Tuesday night game? Oh, hell no. The A’s will need to rely on a local fan base in southern Nevada, and I just don’t imagine that’s going to be easy to build.


40 posted on 11/16/2023 10:03:47 AM PST by irishjuggler
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