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Weekly Garden Thread - October 28-November 3, 2023 [First Frost Edition]
October 28, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 10/28/2023 7:31:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; frost; garden; gardening; november
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To: Qiviut; Pollard

Sorry about the pulled muscle. I’ve pulled that one and it is no fun! Heat helped me, as well as a trip to the Chiropractor, if you have/use one.

Remember: Our mantra around here is ‘how can I still do this easier as I age*?’ ;)

*Pollard is winning the challenge these days! :)


81 posted on 10/31/2023 6:59:53 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Augie

Go, Augie!

I, for one, WELCOME our Winter Weather Overlords! :)


82 posted on 10/31/2023 7:01:08 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Qiviut

Those Marconi Peppers are gorgeous! I need to cut back on the bells and raise those again. :)


83 posted on 10/31/2023 7:01:48 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: MomwithHope
LOL! Exactly.


84 posted on 10/31/2023 7:05:37 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FRiends

85 posted on 10/31/2023 7:11:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Augie; Diana in Wisconsin; Pollard; Liz
Same here, a lot like you and Diana and Pollard. We had a lot of rain here along the I70 corridor, about 4 inches total. Then cold, same as you. Anything exposed is gone, basil and tomatoes.

She enjoyed her 250 Lb + of heirloom tomatoes and capri salads and bruchetta, but now Mrs. Pete is tired of the buckets of tomatoes and things ripening in the kitchen! (I want my kitchen back!! Do you hear me??)

I think we will warm up and dry out enough to set out garlic and potato onions. (Japanese Multiplier Green onions and Catawissa walking onions from Bakers creek are already established and should take off in the spring.) Today or tomorrow I will clean up any thing left that is not in a low tunnel. If it warms up enough I will remove the winter cover I threw over the top of the nylon mesh and give the broccoli and cauliflower more sunlight.

Regarding rain and tomato salads, (A drizzle of balsemic vinegar on your caprese salad!) here is a BBC article on Balsemic Vinegar:

Why your balsamic vinegar is likely fake!

"Traditional balsamic vinegar from the two provinces of Modena and Reggio Emilia in the Emilia-Romagna region of northern Italy is made from grape varieties grown in the mildly calcareous soil of the provinces. "To produce it, mosto cotto (cooked must, or crushed grape juice including the skin, stem and seeds) is progressively aged for decades in sets of aromatic wooden barrels known as a batteria (battery)," said Lara Vecchi, a fifth-generation traditional balsamic vinegar maker at Acetaia Bompana in Modena. This slow process takes place in an acetaia, a dimly lit attic, where its cold in the winter and warm in the summer, and this change of temperature is key to a fragrant, dark and thick liquid with the perfect balance of sweet and tangy flavours."

(more at link)

Sure enough, I just checked the bottle I have from Trader Joes. While it is PGI (protected geographical indication) it is not "tradizionale"! (Which is ok, I did not expect that it was!) So the ersatz product but from Modena.

Spring is when the annual refilling of the barrels at Bompana’s vineyards in Modena is done (Credit: Priya Mani)

86 posted on 10/31/2023 8:39:21 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 30F sunny 10:10 )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thx for the balsamic history and the gorgeous pic.


87 posted on 10/31/2023 8:42:43 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Liz; Diana in Wisconsin; Qiviut; All
Recipe from the above article: Calzogatti (polenta cooked with beans)

Calzogatti con aceto balsamico recipe
By Lara Vecchi

Serves 6

4 cups water
1 tsp salt
1 cup polenta (corn meal)
2 tbsp olive oil
1 can borlotti beans, drained
1 tomato, diced
1 clove garlic, finely minced
a few sprigs of rosemary, finely chopped
2 tbsp neutral oil, such as vegetable
traditional balsamic vinegar, for serving

Method

Step 1 In a large pot, bring the water to a boil and add the salt. Slowly and steadily add the polenta, stirring constantly with a wooden spoon to prevent any clumps. Reduce the heat to medium and let it cook slowly, stirring for about 30 minutes, until thick, smooth and creamy.

Step 2 Meanwhile, in a large frying pan over medium-high heat, heat the olive oil. Add the beans, tomato, garlic and cook for a few minutes, until thick and saucy. Stir in the chopped rosemary.

Step 3 Mix the bean sauce into the polenta evenly.

Step 4 Line a rectangular cake pan with parchment or smear a spoon of neutral oil on the base and the sides of the pan. Tip the polenta and bean mixture into it, flattening the top and covering it neatly with a parchment sheet. Let it cool overnight at room temperature or refrigerate for 3 hours. The polenta will be set into a cake. Flip this over on a wooden board and cut into 5cm (2 in) squares.

Step 5 In a medium frying pan, heat some neutral oil over medium-high heat and pan fry the polenta pieces until golden and crisp on the outside. Drain on a kitchen paper and continue until all the pieces are done. Serve warm, with drops of traditional balsamic vinegar.

( Looks great, but does this not cry out for a squash / pumpkin for bean substitution? )

CF: French Corn Pumpkin "pie"


88 posted on 10/31/2023 8:53:47 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 30F sunny 10:10 )
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To: Liz
Liz, you are most welcome!

See the recipe post above which I really want to try but will not for some time! (Lo Carb Keto living right now!)

89 posted on 10/31/2023 8:57:57 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 30F sunny 10:57)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Mrs. Pete wants her kitchen back... sounds like a perfect time to suggest the construction of a summer kitchen.

I can’t imagine doing the canning/preserving that I do here in Mrs. Augie’s kitchen.

It’s nowhere close to big enough to set up two or three banjo cookers, not that it would be safe to do so, and it keeps the mess out of the house.

I would love to have a dedicated space to do that sort of stuff, but for now I’ll have to be content doing it in my workshop like I have since we built this place.


90 posted on 10/31/2023 9:00:20 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Love it.....and i’m not on keto.


91 posted on 10/31/2023 9:01:25 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Qiviut

Ouch! Pulled muscle! 5 Loxin supplement and capsasin maybe? Hope you get better soon!


92 posted on 10/31/2023 9:01:38 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 30F sunny 10:57)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You are absolutely right; Winter is Natures way of making you slow down for a while! Time to go indoors and make cheese and beer and cider and enjoy the fire while it snows and to enjoy your family and the holidays!

(Temp has heated up to 31F! Need to go out and do yard stuff!)


93 posted on 10/31/2023 9:09:41 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 31F sunny 10:57)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thae French Corn Pumpkin Pie recipe is now in my recipe app!

We have a family reunion in early December & it’s potluck so I am looking for unusual dishes to take - main considerations: have to be delicious & travel well.


94 posted on 10/31/2023 10:17:32 AM PDT by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission; Liz

I make the Balsamic reduction glaze that is awesome on just about anything, but we use it on salads and fresh tomatoes & Mozz, mostly.

https://www.savoryexperiments.com/balsamic-reduction-sauce/#wprm-recipe-container-18372


95 posted on 10/31/2023 10:22:27 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wow......a keeper recipe.


96 posted on 10/31/2023 10:26:42 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

That pie is really interesting! Mom is hosting Thanksgiving this year, and we are hosting Christmas. We’ll have Turkey on Thanksgiving, and I’m doing a Ham, as we just got a big one from the 1/2 hog that was delivered today.

That pie would be a wonderful ending to the ham dinner I am planning. Thanks!


97 posted on 10/31/2023 10:27:37 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Augie

I understand! It would be good to have an extended mud room / pantry that has laundry, a wash table, another stove, and lots of working table space situated between the garage and house!


98 posted on 10/31/2023 11:02:53 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 34F sunny 1:02)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It looks good, try a small one to see first! (Let us know!) I look at it and say with dinner ham and save the pecan pie for after! :)


99 posted on 10/31/2023 11:05:43 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 34F sunny 1:02)
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To: Liz

Liz, thanks for keeping the cooking thread alive here. I miss it, and you were a big contributor.


100 posted on 11/01/2023 2:30:58 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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