Posted on 10/28/2023 4:36:38 AM PDT by marktwain
Second Amendment activists have scored a victory in the battle to have reality influence the debate over gun culture in the United States.
For years, those who want a disarmed population have attempted to demonize homemade firearms as “ghost guns.” They have claimed they are an existential threat to the people of the USA and the world. The claim is that the lack of a serial number somehow makes a gun more dangerous. Serial numbers are easy to remove. Homemade guns have existed since before the Republic was founded. Serial numbers were not required on firearms until 1968. The claim a few more guns that are not “traceable” is somehow a problem is not credible.
Most guns in the USA are not traceable, whether they have serial numbers or not. The credible reason to require serial numbers on all guns is to enable gun registration, which enables gun confiscation.
El Paso will not accept “ghost guns” because “ghost guns” at these events show the futility of “gun control.” Accepting “ghost guns” quickly transfers the money from the event organizers to Second Amendment activists. The publicity of the “ghost guns” at gun “buybacks” destroys the propaganda effect of the event.
On July 30, 2022, a Second Amendment activist turned in at least 62 3D-printed firearms in Houston, Texas. The event organizers paid out thousands of dollars. The publicity was priceless.
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It is not like governments already have debt problems.
Gun turn in events or "buybacks" are one of the ways that money is being wasted. There are multitudinous others which do not get as much attention.
I wish I could go to one of the “buybacks” and find a nice Holland & Holland double rifle.
At the recent event in Dallas, one person turned in about 50 new, nice, overunder shotguns which normally have a retail price of about a thousand dollars...
Apparently, there was some sort of minor defect in the ejector of the shotguns.
I’ll gladly sell some AR’s to the government for 2 ounces of gold each.
As long as I can keep obtaining them for a few hundred dollars.
The idea that the public can be disarmed by these silly “buy backs” is hilarious. It’s another liberal virtue signal that permits fools to think they’re doing something meaningful.
They are offering $300 for long guns, working or not! Many long guns can be purchased new for under $200. In the last few years, I have purchased several for about $100 each (on sale).
If New Mexico doesn't put a limit on how much they will pay out (the New Mexico State Police never got back to me with an amount) the program could bankrupt the state!
hmmm ... not so much ...
These are simply a precursor to the “mandatory” buy back.
Some thing to get the public used to hearing about “buy backs” ...
Soften up the target
Yes I need one in my area. Looking for a nice vintage deer rifle. A friend of mine scored a nice one for$100 a few back. Just get in line and offer a few dollars more
I sold a couple old unused broken firearms to the City of Baltimore a few years ago. I sold them at a healthy profit. (and bought more ammo)
Most of the people in line were just like me, selling old rusty trash for new green cash. There were zero gang bangers turning in their pieces, just old guys cleaning out their gun cabinets to make room for some new ones.
Didn’t I read that the “event” in DFW last weekend the 2nd truck in line had 200 shotguns in the bed ?
So would they accept a zip gun? How about one of those cheap .44 caliber black powder derringers made from a kit? Or a gas pipe shotgun?Where’s the logic in the line they have drawn?
Agree....even the term “buyback” is so lame. How can the gubmint “buy back” what it never owned in the first place??
Would have loved to see someone turn in a pop tart chewed In the shape of a gun saying “a school thought this design for a half eaten poplars was so da gerous that they suspended a child for having chewed it into this “L” shape
That is incorrect.
It was the first truck in line.
It only had 100 shotguns.
They were behind the front seat.
A good question. No one will know for certain until they try. The police at these events are usually pretty good at letting anything which is plausible in. It is not their money, and why cause a problem? Everything is supposed to be destroyed anyway.
They sometimes raise an eyebrow to someone bringing in dozens of guns at one time, or lots of homemade guns.
I have not heard of anyone being arrested at one of these events.
Most private buyers know the rules, know the law, know their rights, and are careful, polite, and persuasive.
Logic? The logic is purchasing lots of cheap "ghost guns" for many times what it costs to make them shows the event to be logically indefensible. The primary purpose of these events is for street theater, to send the message: guns are bad, turn them in!
Private buyers neutralize that message with their own: Guns are valuable, I pay cash!
You hit the nail squarely on the head.
A home made slam fire shotgun is shown in the movie American Guerrilla in the Philippines(1950)
Easy to make out of water pipe.
Maybe that is why the movie is not often shown on TV.
So the logical question becomes, how many 3-d printed guns would you have to turn in to amortize the cost of the 3-d printer?
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