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There have been occasional discussions on FR about the often ridiculous cost of higher education these days. Harvard provides a good example of why costs are so out of control, and Harvard is probably not the only one.
1 posted on 10/25/2023 6:53:11 AM PDT by ken in texas
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Only fools go to Harvard.


2 posted on 10/25/2023 6:54:43 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Rebuild the Temple.)
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how much federal money does “ Hah-vud” receive a year, and why?


3 posted on 10/25/2023 6:55:38 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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In all fairness to Harvard, affirmative action schools require a lot more administrators to get their affirmative action “special ed students” through the course.


4 posted on 10/25/2023 6:56:30 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't be an attention ho. Country Music Stars aren't given Grammys by the retarded, "woke" left. )
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Too many chiefs and not enough Indians.................


5 posted on 10/25/2023 6:58:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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It’s a graduation factory


8 posted on 10/25/2023 7:03:31 AM PDT by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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Same in all public school systems. Give them a dollar and 10 cents goes to teachers, classrooms, and book, and 90 cents goes to a new administration building, administrators, and nonsense.


9 posted on 10/25/2023 7:05:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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Those who can, do.

Those who can’t, teach.


10 posted on 10/25/2023 7:08:50 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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That’s an awful lot of administrators. Harvard should probably hire a some new administrators to oversee the current administrators.

I say this in hopes Harvard will award me an honorary degree. It would look swell on the wall next to my real degree from Faber College. Not to brag, but that was presented to me by Dean Wormer himself.


12 posted on 10/25/2023 7:09:55 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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End the federal student loan program, and all of this will change. This is all subsidized by U.S. taxpayers.


14 posted on 10/25/2023 7:11:32 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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I have stories..........


17 posted on 10/25/2023 7:12:47 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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“Harvard provides a good example of why costs are so out of control, and Harvard is probably not the only one.”

I attended a state university in the 1970’s. The size of the student body has doubled since I graduated. At that time the university prided itself in its low administrative overhead and the tuition and fees were low and affordable for middle class families as well as students working their way through college. Today the administrative bureaucracy is ten times the size when I attended. Recognize that when I attended in the 1970’s the personal computer revolution had not occurred. Administrative and file systems were paper and are now automated. Tuition and fees are astronomical, even for in-state students.

Private universities, such as Harvard, are free to spend as they wish. Unfortunately, state legislatures have completely abdicated their oversight responsibilities for taxpayer funded universities. States struggling to balance budgets should look closely at forcing changes at public universities to make higher education more affordable to students and the taxpayers of the state.

Suggestions:

1). Leverage a common IT platform for administration across all of the publicly funded institutions in the state.
2). Slash the administrative bureaucracy. My alma mater has 70 DEI administrators today versus none when I attended. The payroll cost of DEI is $10 million. Instant savings.
3). Shift the faculty focus from research and publishing to teaching. Require tenured professors to teach at least 3 classes per semester (some teach zero). Junior professors should be teaching 4 or 5 classes. More hours in the classroom for existing faculty will permit reduction of class sizes or even reductions in faculty headcount.
4). Stop building luxury buildings with big atriums and high ceilings which are expensive to heat and cool. Return to utilitarian classroom buildings and dormitories. Student’s don’t need luxury apartments for housing and states should not be building them. If a student has the resources to live in a luxury apartment, let them live off campus and pay for it themselves.
5). Return to less expensive cafeteria style dining halls instead of an assortment of boutique restaurants and coffee shops.
6). End tenure.
7). Require college presidents to testify annually to a legislative oversight committee for higher education.


18 posted on 10/25/2023 7:13:14 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on )
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A Harvard administrator was walking down the hallway crying. A friend asked him “Whats wrong”? He replied “My student quit.”


19 posted on 10/25/2023 7:13:45 AM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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The gravy train.... What a wonderful ride....if you can get it.!


21 posted on 10/25/2023 7:15:20 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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And we used to joke about what jobs there would be for Black Studies majors. Women’s studies, gay studies and so on.


23 posted on 10/25/2023 7:18:32 AM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to incompetence-stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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Undergrads at Harvard are just there for appearances.


24 posted on 10/25/2023 7:19:17 AM PDT by glorgau
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They aren't administrators, they are student indoctrination coordinators (Marxist drill instructors).

Brainwashing is a tough business. You don't think Harvard and the rest of the universities in the U.S. have it easy, do you? Creating and graduating generation after generation of Marxist robots has taken almost 100 years of planning and execution.

BTW, the Communist Party USA was founded in NYC (235 W 23rd St) on September 1, 1919 (104 years ago). I used to live right around the corner on 22nd St.

27 posted on 10/25/2023 7:22:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Bloated Administrative Staffs is the Hallmark of today’s education system from pre-school to university graduate level.

here is the example I use.

In Florida we are paying about $20,000 per year per student for pre-school to 12th grade.

In Florida the maximum class size is 20 kids per classroom.

So we are spending $400,000 per year per classroom.

A teacher costs about $100,000 per year for salary and benefits.

So what is the other $300,000 per year per classroom spent on????

Administrative Bureauracy.


28 posted on 10/25/2023 7:22:42 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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So what?


31 posted on 10/25/2023 7:31:40 AM PDT by bigbob
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This is just too insane to be true. How many graduate students are there that the bureaucracy “administrates” over?


32 posted on 10/25/2023 7:32:38 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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Sounds like the NHS...


35 posted on 10/25/2023 8:08:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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