Posted on 10/24/2023 6:14:39 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson and his guest, retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor, scoffed at the idea that the United States was scoring “moral victories” through its assistance of Israel and suggested that the world’s only Jewish-majority state was committing “war crimes” by bombing Gaza during an episode of the former’s show released on Monday.
After a conversation during which the two commentators argued that wiping out Hamas was an unrealistic goal, they said that the U.S. was hurtling toward war with Iran and bizarrely submitted that Turkey and Russia would be eager to join such a conflict on the side of Iran, Carlson adopted a mockingly inquisitive tone.
“But we’ll be, as we become impoverished and chaotic and subject to these terror attacks, we’ll be winning important moral victories, don’t you think?” he asked.
He continued:
This is the problem with collective punishment. This is the problem with annihilating Gaza and trying to sweep out its population. That’s unacceptable to us as Americans. I don’t think if you sat down any of Israel’s most ardent supporters in the United States and said, ‘Are you willing to trade the lives of several hundred thousand people in Gaza for the lives taken in Israel by Hamas?’ After all, Hamas and Palestinian Jihad were the fighters. They lost 1,500, there were 3,000 involved in the several waves of the attack. They’re dead. Now we’re looking at perhaps 5,000 civilians dead. How many more will we witness? Is that somehow or another justified morally?
So @BasedMikeLee retweets Tucker & Douglas Macgregor talking about how Israel is committing “war crimes” employs “collective punishment, [is]annihilating Gaza & trying to sweep out its population,” before equating the lives of Hamas’s sadistic butchers with the people they killed pic.twitter.com/InzHrKb4fM
— The Meturgeman (@HaMeturgeman) October 24, 2023
It’s unclear what Macgregor has that leads him to believe that all of the terrorists involved in planning, preparing for, and carrying out the October 7 attack on Israel are already dead.
At the outset of the Russian war on Ukraine, Macgregor submitted that Russia would win the war within a couple of weeks. He has also spread Russian propaganda by declaring that Vladimir Putin only invaded because Ukrainian military forces were massing at the Russian border and that the Russian leader has taken pains to avoid kill civilians in Ukraine.
As of July, over 9,000 civilians had been killed, and nearly 16,000 had been injured by Russia in Ukraine. The statistics cited by Macgregor about civilian casualties in Gaza come from Hamas.
Carlson and Macgregor join the ranks of far-left commentators and politicians such as Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, and Mehdi Hasan in suggesting that Israel has committed war crimes in its defensive war against Hamas.
, carlson
You are intellectually dishonest or just a moron. Perhaps both.
But Tucker's shift toward the Jew-haters is the big problem, and one which may be explained by his increasingly close relationship with Muslim venture capitalist Omeed Malik.
Tucker Carlson raises $15M for new media company
Malik and Carlson have a long history, as the former banker once backed The Daily Caller, which Carlson co-founded in 2010. Malik also led a blank check company that acquired PublicSq, an "anti-woke" online marketplace that recently struck an ad deal with Carlson worth more than $1 million.
Oh, please, Mediaite? You must be desperate.
If you listened carefully... (ahem) they were weighing the choices that one must make with the reactions and consequences from allies and enemy nations alike which is certain to come forth. Tucker was asking the questions based on the leftist, anti-semitic media's portrayal of events. Devil's advocacy if you will. Perhaps too much thinking for some.
He wasn't saying they are wrong to strike back, he was saying what the repercussions may be in the region with such a retaliatory strike. And... based on our open borders, what may take place in the U.S. as a result of an IDF response.
And here you are endorsing Biden's foreign policy.
I’m not sure what Tuckers fascination with Macgregor is but it hurts his credibility. Macgregor has been consistently wrong about Ukraine. If he is such a military genius why was he only a Colonel? Why did he never make General?
Disgusting piece of dog turd
Anyone who can put together an argument like you can, shouldn't be laughed out of the room. At least not immediately.
Tucker Carlson releases a lengthy discussion of the ramifications of an expanded Israeli War in the Middle East.
(2:00) Col. Douglas Macgregor
(4:20) Threats to the homeland
(6:12) Iran & its missiles
(13:00) Going into Gaza
(19:40) American hostages
(22:45) Impact on the American economy
I’m in agreement with Tucker & Douglas Macgregor who are both America First and are warning of the dangers to the US if we were to go to war with Iran. With Iran now being a client state of Russia it could easily lead to WW3, a war we are not currently prepared to fight. The entire Muslim world including our ostensible allies like Turkey and the Saudis have lined up in support of the Palestinians. We could possibly see another oil embargo like we faced in the 70’s. While I support Israel’s existence they are not the 51st state and American interests come before theirs.
“If he is such a military genius why was he only a Colonel? Why did he never make General?”
Probably because he’s not woke like the other Generals who are more interested in playing politics to get ahead.
Thanks for your comments. Saves me a lot of time. I can't believe how much latitude to spread propaganda and total bullish** the statist neocons take on FR. They certainly do abuse FR's commitment to free speech
Tucker Carlson is a traitor a scum and a Russian plant
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I’ve been wondering which username Bill Kristol posts under here on FR. Now I know.
There was a huge amount of enthusiasm for the Cheney Second Iraq War as well, got to find those WMDs. It soured pretty quickly. I listened to the entire interview by Tucker with Col. McGregor; I heard nothing that was pro-Russian, pro-Iranian or anti-Israel; what I did hear was a detailed discussion on war capabilities, strategy and the costs of invading Gaza and the unpredictable consequences that can follow. If posters on here are going to call names, at least have some basic information to back it up.
Almost invariably Carlson aligns with Putin, which by extension means Putin’s allies, Xi and Iran, and in turn Iran’s terrorist puppets.
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The Biden regime is worse than Putin and has done more to undermine Israel than he has. The Democrats, and Republicans still re-living the cold war, pushed Putin into a survival-mode alliance with those scoundrels, who are not Russia’s natural allies. Things like: engineering the 2014 coup in Ukraine; the 2020 election false flag (”the Russians elected Trump”); the pipeline false flag (”the Russians destroyed their own pipeline”); and the attempt to link Russia with a chemical warfare false flag in Syria.
Tucker quickly ramped up his anti-Israel propaganda right after he took the $15 million “investment” from Omeed Malik.
Agree. Believe NO headline!
War crime? We did much worse during WWII. Our bombers and artillery totally destroyed St. Lo, France, killing about a thousand innocent civilians, but no one at the time called it a “war crime.” It was obvious to all that we had to do this to beat the Nazis.
Lol. Tell Bill I said hello!
“our ostensible allies like Turkey and the Saudis have lined up in support of the Palestinians”
Then WHY will NONE of these Arab countries take Palestinian refugees?
That is because in PUBLIC when they are being interviewed on Al-Jezzera they say they support the Palis. However, Israels two closest neighbors(Egypt & Jordan) want absolutely NOTHING to do with them. In reality they are telling the Israels to crush Hamas and wipe them off the map. Egypt has dealt with the Muslim Brotherhood for fifty years too. They HATE Hamas. As does Jordon. The King almost lost his country to Muslim extremists.
The Saudis want to form a technological partnership with Israel. They realize, like the UAE, that petroleum has a limited future for their country.
“Things like: engineering the 2014 coup in Ukraine...”
If the CIA helped the Ukrainian people in overthrowing Yanukovych, bully for them.
Yanukovych had explicitly endorsed a pro-Western, pro-EU policy that was overwhelmingly popular but then he ripped off his mask and ran to the embrace of Putin.
The word “corruption” is used freely in discussing Ukraine and Russia, but nowhere is it more accurately applied than when discussing Yanukovych.
From Wikipedia, here’s a description of his palace. Did Putin fund it? Any guesses:
Yanukovych abandoned his large estate, Mezhyhirya[178] when he fled the capital. The estate is located in a former forest preserve on the outskirts of Kyiv.
He had acquired the property in 2007, according to critics, through a convoluted series of companies and transactions. Yanukovych did not reveal the price he paid, although he called it a “very serious price”.[179] Mezhyhirya is estimated to have been sold for more than 75 million U.S. dollars.
In a feature with photos on Yanukovych’s Mezhyhirya mansion, Sergii Leshchenko notes “For most of [Yanukovych’s] career he was a public servant or parliament deputy, where his salary never exceeded 2000 US dollars per month.” Under a photo showing the new home’s ornate ceiling, Leschenko remarks, “In a country where 35% of the population live under poverty line, spending 100,000 dollars on each individual chandelier seems excessive, to say the least.” Crowned with a pure copper roof, the mansion was the largest wooden structure ever created by Finnish log home builder Honka, whose representative suggested to Yanukovych that it be nominated for the Guinness Book of Records.[9]
The property contained a private zoo, underground shooting range, 18-hole golf course, tennis, and bowling. After describing the mansion’s complicated ownership scheme, the article author noted, “The story of Viktor Yanukovych and his residence highlights a paradox. Having completely rejected such European values as human rights and democracy, the Ukrainian president uses Europe as a place to hide his dirty money with impunity.”[9]
Documents recovered from Yanukovych’s compound show among other expenses $800 medical treatment for fish, $14,500 spent on tablecloths, and a nearly 42 million dollar order for light fixtures. Also recovered were files on Yanukovych’s perceived enemies, especially media members, including beating victim Tetyana Chornovol. The cost of monitoring the mass media was reportedly $5.7 million just for the month of December 2010.[180]
When the former president departed, 35 cars and seven motorbikes were left behind. Kyiv’s District Court seized 27 vintage cars in 2016 from the fleet stationed at Mezhyhirya, some worth more than $US 1 million.
Yanukovych told BBC Newsnight (in June 2015) that stories that Mezhyhirya cost the Ukrainian taxpayer millions of dollars were “political technology and spin” and that the estate did not belong to him personally; he claimed that the ostriches in the residence’s petting zoo “just happened to be there”[181] and remarked “I supported the ostriches, what’s wrong with that?”.
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