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The Secrets Hamas Knew About Israel’s Military
NYT via DNYUZ ^ | 10/13/2023

Posted on 10/15/2023 6:55:05 AM PDT by logi_cal869

The 10 gunmen from Gaza knew exactly how to find the Israeli intelligence hub — and how to get inside.

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Ten miles later, they veered off the road into a stretch of woodland, dismounting outside an unmanned gate to a military base. They blew open the barrier with a small explosive charge, entered the base and paused to take a group selfie. Then they shot dead an unarmed Israeli soldier dressed in a T-shirt.

For a moment, the attackers appeared uncertain about where to go next. Then one of them pulled something from his pocket: a color-coded map of the complex.

Reoriented, they found an unlocked door to a fortified building. Once inside, they entered a room filled with computers — the military intelligence hub. Under a bed in the room, they found two soldiers taking shelter.

The gunmen shot both dead.

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They provide chilling details of how Hamas, the militia that controls the Gaza Strip, managed to surprise and outmaneuver the most powerful military in the Middle East...

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With meticulous planning and extraordinary awareness of Israel’s secrets and weaknesses, Hamas and its allies overwhelmed the length of Israel’s front with Gaza, shocking a nation that has long taken the superiority of its military as an article of faith.

Using drones, Hamas destroyed key surveillance and communications towers along the border with Gaza, imposing vast blind spots on the Israeli military. With explosives and tractors, Hamas blew open gaps in the border barricades, allowing 200 attackers to pour through in the first wave and another 1,800 later that day, officials say. On motorcycles and in pickup trucks, the assailants surged into Israel, overwhelming at least eight military bases and waging terrorist attacks against civilians in more than 15 villages and cities.

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KEYWORDS: hamas; intelligence; israel; tactics
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To: logi_cal869
Epic quote from another article posted a few days ago …

So much for Israel's flimsy fences, unmanned, AI-powered machine guns and other clever, high-tech toys on the Gazan border. Post-graduate cleverness was simply no match for Hamas' fiercely savage, hands-on guerrilla warfare.

41 posted on 10/15/2023 7:57:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: allendale
I’ve said for a long time that Netanyahu is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with these socialist governments in fading, decadent nations.

The guy was first elected Israel’s leader while Bill Clinton was still in his first term in office.

42 posted on 10/15/2023 8:00:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Paisan

They were’t “terrorists” — any more than the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was carried out by terrorists. They were foreign invaders — plain and simple.


43 posted on 10/15/2023 8:03:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: allendale

> When this is over, Netanyahu’s government will not
> survive after this collassal intelligence failure
> is analyzed.

Cui bono?

The progressivess and globalists.


44 posted on 10/15/2023 8:06:45 AM PDT by Westbrook (The Democrats are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: allendale
When this is over, Netanyahu’s government will not survive after this collassal intelligence failure is analyzed.

My guess is that part of it is due to because the Israeli became woke.

45 posted on 10/15/2023 8:09:33 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MNJohnnie

Exactomundo— the cutouts working for certain elements under condition of the stipends Hamas has been getting. Certain Eurotrash elements and possibly Obamaumao the first’s muzzie implanteds at US gov. Allah snackbar.


46 posted on 10/15/2023 8:13:15 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: John S Mosby

Islam has always relied on Christian traitors. The guns used to knock down the walls of Constantinople in 1453 were built for the Turks by Venetian traitors


47 posted on 10/15/2023 8:15:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: logi_cal869

Right. And giving Bagram airbase up was a US decision to aid Iran, when it could have been and should be a huge deterrent from US policy stance— against Iran. But noo- not with JoeBama acting as the puppet of Obamaumao the First and his muzzie pals at the MB. The two carrier groups are there to prevent Israel from flattening Iran. Overt “cooperation” masked within the comm links. But, uh, Austin is not up to this (the Mossad, the good ones, have fooled him totally before. And Jake Sullivan and Victoria Nuland are vile morons. Craven malcreants who are easily sidelined-all zero dark thirty BS aside, they can’t organize jack all).

The “get Netanyahu” factions of the West are singing their narratives. Once again, we’ll have to watch and learn.


48 posted on 10/15/2023 8:22:44 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: John S Mosby
The two carrier groups are there to prevent Israel from flattening Iran.

I stated nearly exactly that here last week.

49 posted on 10/15/2023 8:24:06 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Beowulf9

Dead on correct, and NOW the “squad” is saying we should “take in” a million “Palestinian” refugees. Can anyone hear imagine what these “refugees” would bring to our country in skill sets, let alone evil Muslim Brotherhood coordination. Are we forgetting the Fairfax, VA mosque and their coordination and protection of 9/11 Saudis? Hmmmm? You are dead correct, and properly thinking in assymmetric terror warfare strategy,tactics and long term goals.

No- No gdmnd Palestinians of any stripe= these poor “victims” who voted Hamas in. Hamas who refused the creation of Gaza as a state of its own- which could have been developed into the Hong Kong of the Med. Not under these child murdering crazed bastards.


50 posted on 10/15/2023 8:27:29 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: logi_cal869

Glad to know it- they work for that Moron Austin— a real gumby idjit. Too busy to stay on FR long- glad there is some good asymmetric logicians here to pry mainstream manipulated eyes open whether they want it or not. MSNBC should be removed, deplatformed by their business model alone.

We must watch and wait- and note important details- like the connex of all this to the de-pieced Quasem Soleimani in 2020 (thank you Donald Trump, with Bibi’s good guys aid). Iran is behind all of this. So- where is John Kerry (who made a nuclear deal all his own with Iranians, filmed doing so in Paris.) Where is old Lurch the gigolo with the fake family name?


51 posted on 10/15/2023 8:33:29 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: John S Mosby
Iran is behind all of this.

Agreed, and I believe that there is a much more complex strategy behind the 10/7 attacks than simple reactionary logic defines.

In short, we've not yet seen the climax of this long-coming assault.

Be well.

52 posted on 10/15/2023 8:38:20 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SaveFerris

Look at it as a “Pueblo” incident for Israel-not designed by obamaumao’s embeds, that’s for certain- but designed to fake THEM out- and this is the follow up fake narrative of the “vulnerabilities”. Just possible the “two” were not IDF or were plants of their own, to be killed for the narrative. The apes that got in would not know how to operate such a center. So- they were let in in that “hub” so called.

Reverse engineering of the “attack” provides a counterintel
deconstruction for outsiders. Hence these kinds of “articles”. Fed to the media trough.


53 posted on 10/15/2023 8:52:45 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: John S Mosby

On a typical US Army base, there can be thousands of soldiers.
None armed.
Not allowed.
guns and ammo all locked up.
Thus the soldiers would be sitting ducks if something like this happened here.


54 posted on 10/15/2023 9:03:21 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Do the police protect the citizens or the criminals....in blue cities? Duh?)
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To: Leaning Right

Oh yeah!
They’re going to allow a few more people to have guns, mainly pistols and they have doubled the amount of ammo a citizen is allowed to have ANNUALLY, from 50 rounds to 100.
In other words, they have learned jack squat!


55 posted on 10/15/2023 9:23:12 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: SaveFerris

This is great!


56 posted on 10/15/2023 10:59:05 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: OldArmy52

Think that Marcinko’s “red team” insurgent base testing pointed this out. How long has this been policy- since Viet Nam fragging incidents in combat zones? Seems idiotic that instead of a unified military armed on base, they have hired contractor rent a cops. Seen a major bases like CentCom.

Pretty silly- as the rules from the old western cavalry forts should really apply around the world. Family was incensed that a rubber boat with explosives was allowed inside a perimeter- w/out at least a machine gun opening up on them at 500 yards when they were allowed to come up right beside the ship with shaped C4 charges! (talking about the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen- also what in hell were they doing there to refuel instead of a friendly. politics- that was al-qaeda which wasn’t supposed to exist, under Billy boy Clintoon). The Navy has long since changed rules and a lot else to remove predictability of terrorist attacks in port.


57 posted on 10/15/2023 11:02:56 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: Beowulf9

😂😀🤪

And all too true


58 posted on 10/15/2023 11:54:06 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: logi_cal869; rlmorel

HAMAS tactics and training

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9GN01JVHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdG8CkbX_NY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HS-SHBxq8Q


59 posted on 10/16/2023 12:05:50 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: TomGuy

Israel lets LOTS of arabs from Gaza and West Bank in to work in Israel on a daily basis. It is Israel’s form of “good will” to allow them to earn money to take back to their families. Much like their good will in providing them electricity and water.

It was probably similar to TET in Vietnam. Lots of insiders, perhaps working the fields outside the base, or maybe even doing stuff on the base, deliveries, etc. to learn the routines and which buildings were what, when various doors and gates may be unlocked, etc.

While TET was a huge PR failure for America, the battle itself brought the end of the Vietcong, and they were never a large threat afterwards. Hopefully the same goes for Hamas.


60 posted on 10/16/2023 12:15:18 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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