Posted on 09/25/2023 8:10:20 AM PDT by ganeemead
Humans are basically aquatic mammals (Elaine Morgan...); that means, amongst other things, that many if not most places on Earth where humans have lived in the remote past might now be under the waves as is the case with the Yonaguni ruins off of Okinawa.
Having a sense of smell no better than humans possess would be fatal for any land prey animal. Notice however that aquatic mammals do not really require much of a sense of smell. Elaine Morgan listed a hundred or so traits1which we share with other aquatic mammals but there are a few which stand out:
Voluntary control of breathing which is an adaptation for swimming and diving. We take that for granted but monkeys and apes do not have it. That is the only reason they cannot teach chimps and gorillas to speak English (they can be taught to communicate using deaf signs perfectly well).
Face to face sex. Marine mammals do that, land animals generally don't.
Shoulders adapted for swim strokes. The basic human swimming motion is the same as to throw overhand or use something like a javelin or an atlatl. Humans have that, primates and hominids never did. That is why Neanderthals were limited to thrusting spears while early humans had atlatls and javelins.
Lack of a decent sense of smell.
Elaine Morgan's aquatic ape theory can be viewed two ways. Viewed as a new version of evolution, it doesn’t really work. Viewed as a theory of human adaptation, it is the best theory that has ever been put forward, but it has never gotten any traction in academia and there are two reasons for that:
There is no fossil evidence of any sort of an aquatic ape ever having lived on this planet, and
There has never been a body of water on this planet which would be safe for humans to live in. You only need to spend 15 minutes in the ancient sea monster section of any large museum to comprehend why humans never lived in water on Earth in prehistoric times.
Perfectly good theory, it just needs a different kind of a world to happen on.
This new book is about that different kind of world...
Neanderthals had throwing spears, too!!
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/jan/neanderthal-hunting-spears-could-kill-distance
They probably used thrusting spears when they worked better to kill huge prey species.
Homo sapiens were of course not aquatic mammals! We are close relatives of Neanderthals, and our genomes contain Neanderthal sequences!!
Cut the baloney!!
Who needs clothes when you got paint!
Vendramini (accurate) Neanderthal reconstruction...
For starters, regardloess of whatever kinds of spears anybody might be finnding, Neanderthals never had the kinds of shoulders you'd to throw ANYTHING overhand the way humans do. The only way a chimp or gorilla can throw anything is sidearm, the way you'd throw a frisbee; the same would have been true of the Neanderthal and other hominids. The Neanderthal was a very advanced bipedal ape with dark-world eyes and a thick fur coat.
We share half our genes with the banana. That comes from humans EATING bananas pretty much forever, both here on Earth and probably throughout the universe; IT DOES NOT COME FROM HUMANS INTERBREEDING WITH BANANAS!!!
The same is true of Neanderthals. The first experience modern humans ever had with Neanderthals was watching friends and family members being killed and eaten by them. Eating the occasional Neanderthal they killed in battle was just sending the fricking Neanderthals a message in their own language.
Danny Vendramini's claims of predation BY Neanderthals driving more gracile hominids into a fast process of evolution into early humans is not believable, but his images match everything we actually know.
I know you want to spin your fiction and that is fine if you are going to sell it as fiction but it is not fact.
Let me guess: You sound like another one of those phds who never had a course in basic logic....
I loved that movie.
Why are you wasting our time with so much BS?
The banana is only found in a small part of the world. Humans have not been eating bananas forever! Our genome is not mostly banana. And we’ve been eating beef, pork, wheat, etc. without ending up with pork or wheat-based genomes!
Danny Vendramini’s theories are based on faulty anatomy, etc.
Svante Paabo was awarded a Nobel Prize for his work on the Neanderthal genome and the evidence for recombination between sapiens and Neanderthal. Many other excellent researchers have been building on his work.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2022/paabo/facts/
If you’re really interested in this subject, you should read Svante Paabo’s work, and stop wasting our time with pseudoscientific nonsense!
There is a claim that, because some humans have a certain small number of genes in common with Neanderthals, that humans and Neanderthals must have interbred. That amounts to thinking that a Neanderthal male could/would rape a woman and, rather than cooking and eating her afterwards as usual, somehow or other keep her alive long enough to bear a cross-species child, raise that child to reproductive age, and have him/her breed back into human populations without anybody catching on, i.e. the claim is ridiculous.
In real life:
• Neanderthal females would kill that woman the first time her new owner left her alone for ten minutes.
• The woman wouldn't fare any better than the subjects of the soviet attempts to breed humans and apes into super workers in the 1930s.
• Humans would notice the child was different (really different...)
• And humans would kill that child and everybody else like him as part of the same program which killed out the Neanderthal. They would not need DNA tests to determine who to kill for that sort of reason, it would be exceedingly obvious.
In other words, it would be a miracle for something like that to ever have happened once while the claims from Paabo et. al. require it to have been going on all the time. That is, for human/hominid cross-breeding to have left detectable traces in the DNA of modern humans, it would have to have been entirely common.
There will be some rational reason for any common genes between humans and Neanderthals. Claims of interbreeding however are not rational. A reasonable person might entertain a theory requiring one probabilistic miracle or zero probability event in the history of the universe, but not something that stands everything we know about probability theory on its head.
Now the dead can just quietly mail in their Demonicrat vote.
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