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1 posted on 09/16/2023 5:53:12 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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2 posted on 09/16/2023 5:54:26 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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3 posted on 09/16/2023 5:57:07 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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Took a trip Thursday to the Shenandoah Valley - love all the fall displays we saw ... pumpkins, mums, etc. One if the places we went was an apple orchard - nothing beats an apple fresh off the tree - the apples in the grocery are tasteless, don’t smell like apples, either.

Back at home, the ‘must do or it will spoil’ canning is done ... hallelujah! I have some specialty jellies/jams to do, but the fruit is in the freezer, the wine is in the bottles, so nothing will spoil until I can get to it.

BIG projects to do - moving lumber out of the garage, fixing the pole barn so I can drive through with the PU, getting huge & heavy metal shelves from the barn to the garage & put together (currently in original boxes on sawhorses), moving the firepit (the huge slab of rock it sits on), replacing all the battery wires on mom’s golf cart, taking down tarps & putting up metal siding on the lean-to shed, and the garden .... taking down fences, cleaning out raised beds, etc. I have to get the place mowed somewhere in between - just enough rain to get the grass growing again.

The weather is spectacular - low humidity, yesterday was a high of 78 & overnight it was 55. The projects piled up because of the brutal heat last month in particular ... the current conditions, if they stick around, are great for working outside.


4 posted on 09/16/2023 6:31:58 AM PDT by Qiviut (To the living, we owe respect. To the dead, we owe the truth (Voltaire) $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Our first frost of the year happened at the golf course last night. I’m a bit higher in the valley, so no frost here yet, but all the soft produce has been brought in. Potatoes, carrots and beets are all still in the ground, but frost won’t harm them.

The sunflowers are all going like nobody’s business, after spraying them with deer repellent. The bees don’t seem to mind too much.

I’ve learned to NOT plant nasturtiums in front of my animal sensor/sprayer deterring device.

Happy Harvest!


7 posted on 09/16/2023 7:26:32 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My garden is being overrun with weeds, but I have not been able to tend to it as usual.

My bucket potatoes have died back and the volunteer ones are still going. How long can I go without harvesting the potatoes? I have no intention of losing them to a freeze, but Id like to dig them as late as possible, thinking that they would keep in storage later in the year if I harvested them later.


8 posted on 09/16/2023 7:29:39 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Brothers and sisters...the raccoons finally found my garden.


9 posted on 09/16/2023 7:29:49 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (To you all, my loyal spell checkers....nothing but prospect and admiral nation.)
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After years of trial and error, I'm finally getting the hang of which plants do well in containers, and which plants do not. Geraniums seem to do well all over and they come in a fantastic variety of colors and variations. They were also my mother's favorite plant.

Cooler weather, Thank God.

My 9/11 memorial this past week:

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12 posted on 09/16/2023 8:33:13 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (What did Socialists use before Candles?..... Electricity)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Pollard
TO LINK BACK TO THE SEPTEMBER 09-15, 2023 GARDEN THREAD

CLICK ON THE POTATOES IN A POT IN THIS PICTURE!

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Pollard's F/R profile page is the location of his Prepper links and Data Base and contains the Gardening Resource files.
Click anywhere in the picture to link to his homepage!


13 posted on 09/16/2023 8:44:00 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( Potato photo by Johnathan Kemper. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
(Bringing over 2023 results, failures, and observations from the last thread with some editing / additions.)

A bit of a wrap up for the year. In zone 6B in Eastern Kansas. This year given my limited garden size, I trial grew potatoes and sweet potatoes in buckets and a couple in bags. (I have grown both in the past when I had a large garden.) I have one black bag filled with compost and soil that has some butterballs in it that I did not dig up. One of my unproductive squash put down roots in it and I have not disturbed it.

Notable Failures. This is the Second year for my Korean Golden Sweet potatoes. Tasty, but like last year not enough production when grown in pots in my garden. (Pots were painted white to avoid excessive temps in growing medium.)

The Clancey "from seed" potatoes worked better than the German Butterball potatoes, but The 5 gallon buckets held too much water, and the medium that I used in growing in the 10 gallon buckets did not retain water and were too dry. We had extended periods of 100 + heat which is not good potato weather. Someone mentioned that potatoes would not grow if the temp was over 80 degrees, which might account for this. I probably do not have the climate for potatoes. The result of this year is that I have some seed potatoes and tiny sweet potatoes for next year (If I decide to plant!) The photo in the link back is my approximate size of my harvest. Diana Grew these so maybe able to provide info regarding her harvest in Wisconsin.

I started the Clancey seeds in 4 x4 pots and transplanted them out. I think they would work well in a cooler location in ground. Do not expect large potatoes. Sweet potatoes will grow in my climate with all the heat. I might need to start earlier and use a fast growing variety like Covington.

NOT grown in pots/buckets; Results for squash were also marginal. 1 Red Kuri squash (A most excellent squash!) one Butternut squash, some patty pan and a few zuccini. (Cocozell and Italian Striata Grow Striata if you want lots of squash blossoms....It produced tons of blossoms. ) I Planted 2 pumpkins types with no results to this point and none really expected. (Rouge vif d Etamp, Muskee de Provance.) Had very good results with parthencarpic Beit Alpha types of cucumbers Artist and Diva, mostly because I was able to grow them under a cover which protected them from squash destroying insects. National Pickling Cucumber did well and was productive, but since it could not be covered and needs insects (bees) for germination died a slow death from cucumber beetles and bacterial wilt. (Anticipate this...use staggered plantings and cover them when young.)

I think I started some cabbage this spring, but it was not a good year for it. They need room and an early start and to be covered with garden fabric to protect them from loopers. (Kaitlin IIRC, a good looking sauerkraut type cabbage.)

Limited success; I grew some beets and turnips very early in the Spring, hybrid Boro Beet and Heirloom Golden Ball turnips. Both good varieties that were productive. (But would be better in a larger garden with more sun and room.) I did some fall plantings which are being destroyed by the pill bugs.

Success. High yield and good taste from my Romano type pole beans Helda and Golden Gate which lasted until the cucumber and bean beetles arrived. ( Blue Lake pole beans were devoured at the seedling stage by sow bugs and pill bugs.) They were a favorite place and food for the Green June bugs that also came at the same time as the Japanese beetles. I sprayed for several weeks with Neem / peppermint oil / Gardens Alive's beetleJUS!® Beetle Control and achieved some success control in extending the season, but at a certain point there were just too many! I grew my beans along a wall, but I think that it is better if you can grow them on a trellis that you can access from both sides.

Tons of Basil!!! I inter planted Johnnies Seed Prospera Compact DMR (PL4)and Thai Basil and some Gypsy Marigolds in my Tomato Rows in the late spring (April?) and provided I kept them topped and watered, they grew the entire without any problems with fungus or wilt, even with a period of 100 degree weather! It is mid September and the bees are still visiting the the plants (Especially the Thai Basil with pink Flower spires). I had no real problem with aphids on the tomatoes this year. I will keep using these varieties which have a big recommendation.

I had a good harvest of and Multiplier / Potato onions and Baker Creek bought Estonian Garlic earlier this year. The Baker Creek Japanese Multiplier green onions and leeks are doing well. I just added some of their Catawissa Top Setting red onions which are growing.

Successful High producing: Tomatoes and Shishitos, I will try to find and repost an earlier discussion of the tomato varieties.

So, I have a good salsa garden! Tomatoes and Peppers and Onions! (Not a cool weather type Oktoberfest garden with potatoes and cabbage and beets.)

15 posted on 09/16/2023 10:11:44 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 70 Mostly Cloudy, Rain possible later.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Lean and lower for indeterminate tomatoes isn’t working out with these last two Summers that had near 100 heat waves.

Normally, you would lean and lower letting the bottom stem lay over on the ground. Problem is, the lower stem still had green tomatoes on it that refused to ripen in the heat.

I leaned but had to hang the entire plants horizontally on strings. In one spot, I have three plants, one above the other like that.

With vines 12-15 foot long, they can’t just go vertical.

Naturally, the plants want to grow vertical so hanging them sideways was a battle against nature.

For next year, I’m thinking maybe a cage that’s small around and 6 foot tall and wind the vines around it in a spiral. End stem shape would be like a coil spring.

It would be a way to keep 12-15 foot vines contained in a small footprint.


24 posted on 09/17/2023 5:33:51 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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The MO state nursery is about 35 miles away from me and starts taking orders on Sept 1st but the good stuff, anything human edible, goes quick.

On Sept 2nd, I managed to order 10 elderberry, 10 persimmon and 10 of 0 hazelnut. They allow you to order stuff that’s already gone so IF someone else cancels and had hazelnuts on their order, I might get 10 of them.

I wanted quite a few other types of seedlings but they were all out. Paw paw, Witch Hazel and 4-5 ______berry plants(beautyberry, chokeberry, serviceberry etc). I tried for the hazelnut anyway because having tree nuts in a few years would be cool.

They really need a bigger state nursery or more than one. Running out of stuff in 24 hours is ridiculous.


25 posted on 09/17/2023 6:00:53 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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Home from the racetrack in one piece, more or less. Lots of camper cleanup needed due to heavy rain Saturday night. RV generator took a dump so that will need to be repaired or replaced, and one ruined trailer tire will need to be replaced. It was an expensive weekend.

I don’t feel like working on any of that stuff today so I think I’ll go out and do some cleanup in the garden instead.

2/10ths inch of rain at home while we were gone. Not even enough to knock the dust down.


44 posted on 09/18/2023 10:29:49 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I'm a long time gardener. back in So Cal...I had a large garden and over 24 fruit trees.

Now here in OK....not as large. I've turned to container gardening...it has it's pros and cons.

55 posted on 09/19/2023 2:11:11 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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Lesson learned: Weed barrier held down with garden staples without washers will get shredded by the wind. It also helps to fold over the edges to strengthen the sides.


70 posted on 09/22/2023 3:53:27 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remvove RINOs by voting for them!)
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It’s about that time. Gimme your fried green tomato recipes.


71 posted on 09/22/2023 8:47:46 AM PDT by Pollard (The US government has US citizens as political prisoners!)
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