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To: JonPreston

I firmly believe that this whole effort is to prevent the Democrat corruption in Ukraine being exposed by Russia, if Russia wins.


2 posted on 09/13/2023 5:57:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: Mr. K

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4 posted on 09/13/2023 6:03:36 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Mr. K; Rocco DiPippo; Allegra; ransomnote
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Col. Macgregor: Ukraine Is FALLING APART As Putin Marches West, Mr. K wrote:

I firmly believe that this whole effort is to prevent the Democrat corruption in Ukraine being exposed by Russia, if Russia wins.

I agree. I think the Ukraine and their NATO handlers have plenty of proof of Biden/Schumer/Pelosi/Romney's corruption, just for starters, and they wave it in the breeze whenever they want more American taxpayer money. 'Give us money or we release proof of the Biden Regime's corruption.'
That was before I discovered that Biden himself owns one of the 'bio labs' in the Urkaine, which Russia has asked the UN to investigate as it claims they are biowarfare labs. If there is evidence that Biden's lab, Metabiota, or any other of the 45+ American biolabs in the Ukraine really are conducting biowarfare research, experiments etc. targeting Russia ( I believe it's true) then all AMerican biolabs around the world are going to be suspect, and this all connects directly to Biden himself.

Oh no, every last Ukrainian citizen must be thrown under prepared and poorly equipped onto the front lines to fight and die to hide the crimes of Biden(s) and our other corrupt elites. The child trafficking, pedophilia, organ harvesting etc. corruption headquarters for our 'elites' is in the Ukraine. Did I mention the Azov Nazis have been 'integrated' into the Ukrainian National Guard? Yes - our money is given to pedophile, child trafficking Nazis. It's like a very bad science fiction novel, and yet it is true.

"Let’s not forget that Ukraine is the main player in the market of surrogacy, organ predation, and human trafficking, which also feeds the pedophile network. The denunciations of humanitarian organizations leave no doubt about these unprecedented horrors: children are being killed and dismembered to send their organs to clinics in the West; wounded Ukrainian soldiers are having their organs harvested for the same purpose; the lives of innocent creatures are being sold to rich perverts to satisfy their abominable deviations. And we know how much the deep state is composed of characters who can be blackmailed precisely in furtherance of these execrable crimes, a dynamic highlighted by the recent film Sound of Freedom." ~ Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò

 

 


8 posted on 09/13/2023 6:13:55 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Mr. K

You could be right, at this point, I don’t think Democrats and many Republicans really care what gets uncovered, look at what we already know about Biden, every Democrat and the Media claim there is no evidence at all concerning Biden taking money from foreign countries.

Biden, Feinstein, Fetterman and McConnell are all suffering from some type of brain damage and can’t function, but no one in Washington seems to care.

The people in Virgina look poised to elect a woman to their State House who was doing anal porn videos on the Internet for money and now complains about someone leaking her most intimate moments.

How much worse can we get in this country, probably a lot worse and we are already in a bizarro world.


10 posted on 09/13/2023 6:18:55 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Mr. K

Good assessment.


18 posted on 09/13/2023 6:57:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Mr. K

If you invest in Ukraine because you want to manufacture there, or distribute a product there, or do R&D for products there (favorable framework of laws and taxes, skilled and cheap labor pool), would you not want to see Ukraine in the EU and NATO?

The EU gives Ukraine access to the largest market in the world. It harmonizes policies and provides for consistency. It makes sure you don’t have some bozo come to power and begin nationalizing things like in Mexico, right now!

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexicos-lopez-obrador-orders-ministry-step-up-lithium-nationalization-2023-02-19/

https://qz.com/mexico-buys-power-plants-amlo-isolationism-1850303387

Likewise, NATO membership provides the physical security of not only Ukraine, but their assets, people and property abroad. Screw with a ship carrying Teslas made in Ukraine, and you’ll have the US Navy breathing down your neck.

Before the war, Tesla wanted to build another plant there: https://www.kyivpost.com/technology/mp-asks-elon-musk-build-tesla-plant-ukraine.html

In fact, who in the US, Germany, France, Italy, Norway, Netherlands, Canada, Denmark, Spain, the UK, will disagree? Do you think German companies in Ukraine don’t want to see them as part of the EU and NATO?

While we talk about crap like sovereignty, democracy and human rights, the true motivators are greed. You live in a world where Disney simply changes US patent laws:
https://www.theiplawblog.com/2016/02/articles/copyright-law/disneys-influence-on-united-states-copyright-law/

In the West, those with the money define the laws and policies or government agencies. Ukraine has been a place where western firms have been investing for years, where the influence of foreign governments has been increasing for years. To the point where we decide who comes to office in that country. And when Biden got elected, not only did he make big pharma happy by reversing the Trump era prescription drug cost controls, not only did he make big tech happy by ending any talk of breaking up monopolies or tariffs on trade with China where all their crap is manufactured, he also made industry and financial institutions investing in Ukraine happy by promising to bring Ukraine into NATO.

This is an issue where you can actually get the left and right to agree! You can have a Soros and Graham agree!

But... The Russians who see this as a serious security issue also need to agree, or at least acquiesce.

This is an issue where every US firm doing business in Ukraine, Euro firm doing business there, left, right, can agree on.

It was a gamble.

But, even if it goes wrong, is it really hurting Biden?

When you don’t have any skin in the game, when you’re playing with other people’s money at the casino, you’re willing to gamble much bigger.


28 posted on 09/13/2023 7:25:27 AM PDT by Red6
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