Posted on 07/28/2023 4:17:50 PM PDT by ransomnote
NOTE: This thread is a followup to the prior thread about Biden's Metabiota, and assertions Metabiota is among 50 bio warfare labs operating in the Ukraine.
ransomnote: Excerpts from the article provided below, linked to the Russian government website, provides an overview of Russia's justification for their request that the United Nations Security Council investigate what it says are US biolabs in the Ukraine.
I wanted to investigate the basis for claims made about Biden's Metabiota labs. The text of Russia's petition for an investigation is not on the United Nations website. I couldn't find a copy anywhere so I used Russia's gov website content. Since FR receives daily dispatches from Ukrainian sources, I'm sure no one will object to providing both sides of the dispute.
Obama makes an appearance in this Russian account of the development of the United States bio warfare labs, as does the CIA's Nuland, FIVE EYES and NATO. So far, there's a news coverage blackout on this topic so Russia's government website is the only source I could find.
Below are excerpts from the 4-page overview of Russia's position. The full report is 200 pages in length but so far I can't find an English version. All MSM sources and regime Gov officials, in addition to the UN Security Council, insist these allegations are 'baseless' and 'lack evidence', using pretty much the same template as their description of Trump's 2020 Election theft assertions.
If even a fraction of Russia's assertions turn out to be true, I can see why those behind the US labs 'can't afford' to be exposed, and therefore the US/Ukraine/NATO 'can't afford' to negotiate peace, as Putin has said his peace terms will require UN investigation of US bio warfare labs in the Ukraine. So, no peace agreement means no UN investigation into bio warfare labs.
The overview document asserts the weapons of mass destruction (biological) being developed in the Ukraine, along with experiments on unwitting citizens/military, potentially exist everywhere in the world the US has labs.
The overview on the Russian.gov website is probably 4 pages - I put some excerpts below to give you an idea what's in it. Russia asserts that the Ukraine has at least 50 US labs developed for the purpose of waging 'invisible' bio warfare on Russia and beyond.
Irina Yarovaya presented the outcome report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into Activities of the US Biological Laboratories in Ukraine
April 11, 2023
"The Commission came to unequivocal conclusions that Ukraine, as a major military biological testbed and foothold for waging an invisible biological war against Russia, has been created and managed by the United States of America for many years. You should know that the main laboratories are located in Lviv, Odessa, Kharkiv, Kyiv, which are not open to public and we do not know what is happening there."
SNIP
"We also found evidence that the USA tested unregistered medical products on Ukrainian servicemen. The worst thing is that even today we see confirmation that Ukrainian servicemen are stuffed with various psychotropic drugs, which are aimed at increasing both their aggressiveness and inhuman cruelty. Which is directed against whom? Against women, children and prisoners of war. When people say that these crimes cannot be committed by people, of course, people cannot commit them. Such crimes can only be committed by a monster. But these drugs are also aimed at turning a man into a monster."
And one of the first reactions of the Department of State was nervous and it was on [their] website when we first published this information. You should know that there was an immediate reaction by the US State Department to all the statements of our Commission. Why? Why such worry, why such panic? Because for the first time there was a threat of exposure, because everywhere they go with their biomedical projects, we believe the situations in those territories are the same, used the same strategy of a unipolar world based on greed. They need territories and resources, but they do not need people."
SNIP
"All these facts together, of course, explain the reasons why Ms. Nuland's reaction was so nervous, so that Russians should not get these documents."
SNIP
"In 2021, President Zelensky gave the few remnants of Ukraine’s military sovereignty to the Pentagon, signing secret agreements, including in the field of military biological development and the introduction of biological reconnaissance.
By the end of 2022, it was planned to fully deploy an electronic biological reconnaissance system in Ukraine for the needs of the Pentagon, the Five Eyes intelligence alliance and NATO.
Why did the Ukrainian authorities deceive and continue to deceive the people of Ukraine, and why is the USA deceiving the world community? What crimes are they trying to keep secret in Ukraine? First of all, of course, these are experiments on the ordinary people and military personnel...."
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ransomnote's earlier related post: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4168801/posts?page=1796#1796
Circle back on this one, RN
Do you have an independent and objective source? I mean, your source is .ru, a RUSSIAN source.
Thanks for posting. Biden and the DoD and the State Department can’t have this information being accepted as truth. They’re fighting with every dollar we have and every Ukrainian they have to prevent the exposure and continue the war to ensure the coverup.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Irina Yarovaya presented the outcome report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into Activities of the US Biological Laboratories in Ukraine PLUS MY COMMENTS, ought-six wrote: |
Do you have an independent and objective source? I mean, your source is .ru, a RUSSIAN source. |
Try reading my comments above the excerpts wherein I discuss sources.
PS: I do think the best source of any country's petition to the UN is the UN or that country. NOthing available on the UN website.
I do recall someone posting an image of the Ukraine with the locations of alleged bio warfare labs marked on it, and overlapped with marks showing the largest initial attacks of the Russians. The result implied that Russians prioritized bombing the bio laboratories.
I didn’t post that image - but if anyone has or or has seen i lately, I would appreciate a link.
The US state department publicly admitted that there were US government funded and owned bio labs in the Ukraine, quite a few of them, in fact. Why were they there? Not for anything good.
CNN hasn’t chimed in.
Which Ukrainian victory prompted circling back to this old and debunked Russian propaganda story?
“Try reading my comments above the excerpts wherein I discuss sources.”
I did. And I went to your Twitter source. Twitter? Be serious.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Irina Yarovaya presented the outcome report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into Activities of the US Biological Laboratories in Ukraine PLUS MY COMMENTS, MileHi wrote: |
CNN hasn’t chimed in. |
When the MSM talks about it, their text seems to have been copied straight from their anti-Trump commentary (e.g., 2024) with 'baseless assertions' and 'no evidence' but without any solid information about what the Russians said in their request for investigations. Then the MSM goes on to push Joe Biden's 'narrative' and announce the latest millions/billions of tax dollars Biden is gifting the smoking bombed out crater in the ground formerly known as the Ukraine.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Irina Yarovaya presented the outcome report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into Activities of the US Biological Laboratories in Ukraine PLUS MY COMMENTS, ought-six wrote: |
“Try reading my comments above the excerpts wherein I discuss sources.” I did. And I went to your Twitter source. Twitter? Be serious. |
Oh I am serious. When the MSM issues a blackout on content like the theft of the 2024 elections, or Biden crime family, the best place to turn is often Twitter (e.g., did you read Matt Talibi's 'Twitter Files'?). Did you think the MSM would publish the truth about Biden family biolabs? They wouldn't. Is that why you are against Twitter sources? Maybe that way no one could break the MSM blackout?
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Irina Yarovaya presented the outcome report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into Activities of the US Biological Laboratories in Ukraine PLUS MY COMMENTS, freeandfreezing wrote: |
Which Ukrainian victory prompted circling back to this old and debunked Russian propaganda story? |
You offer snark without substance - not the sign of a winning team. I haven't been finding good sources of war updates today so I'm behind. Oh wait - the Ukrainians shot a missile at civilian targets in Russia and Russia shot it down. The debris landed on a few residences and there was a Ukie troll kind of celebrating it. That's your 'big win' today, folks.
“The US state department publicly admitted that there were US government funded and owned bio labs in the Ukraine, quite a few of them, in fact. Why were they there? Not for anything good.”
The US funds labs all over the world. But funding a bio WEAPONS lab? Show your objective evidence; hearsay and innuendo and speculation won’t cut it. If the objective evidence supports your claim, then the US should be held to account. But you seem to be condemning the accused even before an indictment, let alone a trial. That’s called a rush to judgment, and guilty until proven innocent; which, in such places as Russia, is the standard. No wonder you apply it.
There are scores of sources other than the US MSM (and the US MSM have no credibility with me); but Twitter is not high up there as being a credible source.
The idea they are "weapons labs" is not very plausible. Why would you put your most sensitive military laboratories in a corrupt country on the border of a major adversary? We do not develop our "black operations technology" in foreign countries. It is done with the utmost secrecy where we can protect it and keep it secret.
I have little doubt Ukrainian soldiers are being given drugs to enhance their performance. The USA, Japan, and Germany all did so in WWII. There are probably others who did so as well, almost certainly the Soviet Union, but I do not recall their use in WWII by the USSR as clearly.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Irina Yarovaya presented the outcome report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into Activities of the US Biological Laboratories in Ukraine PLUS MY COMMENTS, ought-six wrote: |
“The US state department publicly admitted that there were US government funded and owned bio labs in the Ukraine, quite a few of them, in fact. Why were they there? Not for anything good.” The US funds labs all over the world. But funding a bio WEAPONS lab? Show your objective evidence; hearsay and innuendo and speculation won’t cut it. If the objective evidence supports your claim, then the US should be held to account. But you seem to be condemning the accused even before an indictment, let alone a trial. That’s called a rush to judgment, and guilty until proven innocent; which, in such places as Russia, is the standard. No wonder you apply it. |
You negate any claim made outside the mainstream media as unworthy of consideration. NATO and the US aren't going to admit to it, as NATO won't either. This is the information blackout you support. I guess you weren't around when Fauci was exposed for funding gain-of-function research? Did you know about Burisma and that Pelosi, Schumer, Biden all have criminal activities and graft there? Remember Biden extorting the Ukrainian minister to get the prosecutor investigating Hunter fired? Remember Trump asking Zelensky to investigate the Biden crimes and Zelensky refusing to do so? The Ukraine is a crime hub protected from investigation.
You try to smear a FReeper for having an opinion, but having an opinion happens all the time. I haven't personally touched or handled the documents exposing Biden family crimes and I have the opinion they are valid. No one here is pretending to be judge and jury - you're sitting in the court of public opinion. There is no jury and no rush to judgement. You sure are eager to brand people 'guilty' of having an opinion you don't like.
“There were/are USA funded biolabs in Ukraine.”
And I don’t think anyone has disputed that. But that is not the issue, is it? We’ve funded research in Russia, and China, and a whole host of similar shady characters; but, weapons labs involving elements which we have ourselves condemned? Present the evidence.
And you bring up a good point: Such operations would be highly classified, and would present a serious national security risk if compromised.
And, I don’t think the pro-Russia FReepers who routinely trot out the “bio labs” boogeyman are referring to manufactured performance enhancing stimulants when they wax indignant about “bio labs.”
Can imagine if China or Russia were operating similar labs in Mexico? We wouldn't tolerate it.
“You negate any claim made outside the mainstream media as unworthy of consideration.”
No; I don’t. But it’s telling that you assume facts not in evidence and jump to conclusions and rush to judgment, which is so typical of someone who can’t prevail on the facts.
If your Twitter sources are so credible where are the peer reviews of their theses? In what authoritative journals or records have these theses been published?
If you are going to condemn the US you better have one hell of a lot more evidence than someone’s Twitter comment.
“NATO and the US aren’t going to admit to it, as NATO won’t either. This is the information blackout you support.”
My God, but you are naiive. If we had bio weapons labs do you honestly think we’d admit it? Such programs would be HIGHLY classified. And, again you show you have no coherent argument, by jumping to the conclusion that by my asking to see evidence I am somehow supporting an information blackout.
“You try to smear a FReeper for having an opinion...”
That’s a lie, and you know it. Opinions are fine; but they should be supported by some credible foundation, and presented sans emotion and hyperbole (because if one has to resort to emotion and hyperbole it generally means one doesn’t have much confidence in his or her own opinion). And I will push back on that.
“You sure are eager to brand people ‘guilty’ of having an opinion you don’t like.”
Again, that’s a lie and you know it.
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