But two additional points should be made:
1. Mandatory DNA testing would help return morality as women would know they most likely could not get away with infidelity.
2. It is massive injustice when a man finds out he is not the father but the courts require him to continue child support for the good of the child.
- the man that cares and provides for the child is the father
-don’t put yourself in the position of being the object of fraud
-our society has been set up not by preventing crimes but by adjudicating after the crimes. Assumed innocent before proven guilty! We nor our society is God but our society is pushing towards trying to be God
On balance, paternal DNA testing should be mandatory and at no cost unless opted out by both parents in writing when the birth certificate is signed. That gives a clear decision point. It would also undo the traditional near-absolute legal presumption that a child born in wedlock is legitimate when the husband had access at the time of conception.
The Povich law.
The only people who still oppose Mandatory DNA testing are those who hate putting the best interests of the child first. There’s no excuse for their ignorance. If there’s any controversy over a child’s parenthood then get that solved ASAP and keep in mind that it’ll only make things worse in the long run to postpone the controversy.
What government agency holds the test results?
You know...because the government is so trustworthy and stuff.
Also, if a woman knowingly deceives a man about being a child’s birth father, she should be made to reimburse the wrongfully accused man.
Big Brother wants the results “just for his file”.
If the man is not the biological father, then he should have no obligation of support, and have grounds to dissolve the marriage with the wife getting no alimony either.
Big Brother wants the results “just for his file”.
I cannot emphasize enough how wrong this is. The only way I can explain it to women....some of whom seem to think its for the best even if its unfair to the guy.....would be a court requiring a woman to marry her rapist.
(audible gasps).
Yes.
Its that bad.
A more egregious and outrageous violation of a person than forcing the responsibility of fatherhood on a guy who just found out that what he thought was "his" child is really a product of his wife's cheating I cannot imagine. No way should any such judgement stand. You have to immediately question not only the legality but the utter lack of a moral compass of any judge who would ever issue such an unjust ruling.
But I don't think testing should be mandatory. The government should stay out of people's personal lives. I think mandatory testing an ill thought out response to the gross injustice of courts further victimizing the poor schlub who has just found out he has been betrayed in the worst way.
If a man wants a paternity test he should not hide behind the Government or have the privacy of other families invaded to get the information he wants without having to go on record as asking.
That is abuse and the very suggestion of having the Government entitled to this data is jaw droopingly irresponsible & indefensible.
Beware of any requirement done for “equity.”
The stories I could tell.
Most men don’t know even close to the half of it about women and the quiet actions they push onto the passing backdoor man drifter.
Women have conventional affairs of course, but they also do things that are so personal and secret that I don’t think even they consciously count them on their scorecard, they just lie in some remote, romantic, lock-box of their mind and heart like a treasured hidden locket that never sees public wear.
Paternity testing? How do they know what a male figure is? Are they biologists?
This is typical coverup with lofty words and aims crafted to disguise the real intent and the true pro and con. Just as we refused to have our kindergartener exposed to a program of puppets like Reggie the recovering addict and Wanda the sexually abused wombat, this DNA database is wrong on so many levels. In our son's case 30 years ago we argued that he deserved to have a childhood where he could feel safe and as though the world was good. The inner strength of that idealized world allows people to act to make that belief true with their actions and conduct later in life even as they learn and experience the darker side of life.
Stealing or destroying that inner peace is abuse. When life brings conflict, sadness or evil into a child's life that is very sad. Those children deserve & need help in understanding the situations they find themselves. They deserve not to feel alone. BUT the welfare of all children does not need to be sacrificed to help those individuals.
This situation appears very similar. Throughout history humans have known that fatherhood is mysterious. Many societies developed as matriarchal to allow for this fact. Human relationships are complex and fragile. To legislate this kind of knowledge is intrusive and will have unintended side effects many of which will be detrimental to all involved.
If the issue is that men should not be forced to support children not their own, depending on the circumstances I agree. It is certainly a deeper betrayal on top of the betrayal of divorce. At that point DNA testing has a valid role to play. The proposed universal testing plays into intrusive Government hands and is a further assault on the institution of marriage. Abuse of that DNA database is very likely and should be an overriding concern in applying a policy across the board needlessly.
Blacks are group most affected and soon there will thousands of step daddy’s, mother’s brothers and all those other “unknown” fathers will be found in the home.
This is a perfect of example of:
“Should the government...”
“Nope”.
I can’t believe “conservative” people would support this. There’s a lot of people who should evaluate their political perspectives to see if they are really where they think they are.
No. if a man thinks his child may not be his then he should be able to go to court and get a mandatory DNA test.
The government doesn’t need this all on file.
What the heck is wrong with people?
How did we ever live and take care of these matters before DNA testing?
This is insanity
In a legal setting, DNA testing is the only way to verify paternity. But using this method as standard operating procedure for all births will end up being problematic, not to mention expensive.
Once the waiver is signed, that genetic information is no longer theirs, and the third and fourth parties having access to it will have some abilities beyond just identifying paternity.
Possibly cross-matching to criminal DNA databases, as the government just won’t be able to help itself.
Terms and Conditions of the waivers will be interesting to see.
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