Posted on 09/07/2023 9:05:17 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
The Maidan coup (pron: My-dan coo) or Ukrainian crisis of 2014 was a violent U.S-backed anti-democratic color revolution which brought the neo-fascist Maidan regime to power in Ukraine. It began when the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown on February 22, 2014, following months of agitation by the Obama State Department and John Brennan's CIA. It was an extension or continuation into Europe of the Obama administration's failed "Arab Spring" regime change policy and widely seen as Western imperialism.
With the overthrow of the democratically elected government at least 6 million Ukrainian refugees fled to Russia for asylum. In April 2014 the majority Russian populations in Crimea and Donbas voted for re-incorporation into the Russian Federation in popular plebiscites; Crimea's request for re-admission was accepted by the Russian State Duma,[13] while the Donbas territories were rejected. The Donetsk and the Lugansk People's Republics then declared independence as the fascist Maidan regime implemented a full-scale policy of ethnic cleansing and began artillery shelling of civilian residential neighborhoods to drive ethnic Russians and Russian-speakers out of the former Ukrainian territories. The newly declared independent republics organized their own defense militias.
In February 2015 peace talks were held in Minsk, Belarus.[14] As of February 2022 big cities like Donetsk, Lugansk,[15] Horlivka, Makiivka or Debaltseve[16] fell under control of the independent republics.
In Leftist totalitarian circles the Maidan coup often goes by the sweetened term "revolution of dignity".
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Thanks for posting. For those that want to get past the Gaslighting of the Neocon Cheerleaders, watch this video, and it will put the Ukraine events in context.
https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html
Just more Kremlin propaganda!
Even the Russophones in the east don’t want to be governed by Moscow.
Why didn’t Putin just send troops into those areas and secure them. To use your logic why are the rest of the ukranians fighting on the “wrong” side?
Apparently it is okay to invade and destroy the rest of ukraine to protect those areas?
Putin never accepted a free and sovereign Ukraine, has said so in writings and speeches. All the pretexts of protecting these people and denazifying the rest was just an excuse for a land and resource grab to “correct” a mistake.
I find the rhetoric from all sides fascinating , but none more that attacking Ukrainian cities, grain export infrastructure being okay, but attacking Moscow or kirsch bridge are terrorist acts?The “attacks” on Donbas …. after 2014 bad, invasion of rest of Ukraine “justified”?
Isn’t it interesting that until recently the Kremlin position was the 2014 “little green men….” Was an organic Ukrainian separatist thing and now they admit they were Russians all along
this was nothing more than a last gasp by Putin to reclaim some of former soviet territory and power he so laments losing
The result is tragic for both Ukraine and Russia, made even worse by the fact that Putin has no choice but to keep this up. Not for “justice “ or some higher cause like protecting Christianity…, but because after all of this if he loses territory he knows he is toast
In the end this is all about him, his legacy and ultimately his survival
“Why didn’t Putin just send troops into those areas and secure them. To use your logic why are the rest of the ukranians fighting on the “wrong” side?
Apparently it is okay to invade and destroy the rest of ukraine to protect those areas? “
There are at least two issues.
One is the Donbass, where the guy they voted for overwhelmingly got forced out in a coup orchestrated by Victoria Nuland.
The other is defensible borders for Russia.
Russia isn’t protected by oceans like the USA and the rest of the Anglo-sphere.
The 1991 border with Ukraine is stone markers in farmers fields with dozens of parallel roads across farmland going straight to Moscow.
When a hostile alliance like NATO is going to be on a border like that, it’s just an invitation to future attack, and the Russians are not going to accept it.
Russia has the military capability to change the facts on the ground.
They have exposed a lot of Western weapons as overhyped gold-plated crap. As well as showing the West has a non-existent military mass production capability. And an outsourced industrial base which will take decades to reverse (if it ever happens).
Ukraine is in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong friends.
They though they were going to join Globohomo and get rich. And now they are just going to be destroyed.
Review.
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Okay
Ohio, Fla,WV… voted overwhelmingly for Trump and lost due to a coup, so we invade NY?
Defensible borders?
So take Ukraine you still have poland Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, Rumania and Hungary (well I will give you Hungary). Now Finland on your border and a very pissed off bunch of partisans , not sure I see that as better
Stone markers
Is that kind of the norm, maybe not stone markers but signs on a road. What marks the borders for Russia on the rest of its borders
Gold plated crap, like T-90s and the “unstoppable” hypersonic missiles?
A relatively small Ukrainian force with even fewer “gold plated” western weapons seems to have done quite a number on Russian equipment and personnel
You were right about military industrial complex kind of asleep in Europe, but Putin changed that
USA has plenty of stock, South Korea is becoming.a powerhouse, remember Ukraine running out of shells, not so much
Joe about those s-400s, well done there
As to Russian industrial capacity getting drones from Iran and begging nk for shells, not a good look
Looks like Russia will have blown through there Soviet legacy arsenal pretty quickly where are those 1500 T-90s a year production or the T-14s
Ka-52s days are numbered and appears russia is losing strategic bombers and transports which seems unlikely they can replace, where is this vaunted capability you speak of
When Ukraine gets decent air power capacities and capabilities we will see
“Defensible borders?
So take Ukraine you still have poland Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, “
The entire border with Finland is heavily forested with only a handful of roads. (which is why the USSR had such trouble during the Winter War)
The border with Estonia is rivers, lakes and marches, which is why the USSR had such difficulty during the Tartu Offensive.
The Pripet Marshes and related rivers and lakes covers the southern third of Belarus. There are very few roads and there was almost no major military operations in the Marshes during WW2 for that reason.
During WW2, the Germans had great difficulty capturing the Donbass, because it was protected by the Donetz River, and the industrial and mining facilities were natural defensive positions.
That leaves the northern half of Belarus, and the farming plain between Kharkiv and the Pripets Marshes - which were the primary Barbarossa invasion routes into Russia.
This also explains why the Color Revolution against Belarus was seen as such a hostile act. (because it would have given the West access to another indefensible border)
I understand putins paranoia, but esp considering condition of most of NATO militaries prior to invasion, I see no actual threat from NATO initiating an invasion of Russia
Now militaries are waking up, poland is arming up(if Putin wants to scared of something that might be one to be concerned about, now
Finish border along with swedens military air and naval.
Sorry but I still believe this was not about an external military threat, but putins dreams and desires for glory days….
“...considering condition of most of NATO militaries prior to invasion, I see no actual threat from NATO initiating an invasion of Russia...”
Things can change quickly, and they have in the past.
In 1933, Germany was legally limited, to an army of 100,000 with no tanks, heavy weapons or combat aircraft.
In 1940 they defeated France in a week.
True, but do you actually see NATO invading, and you are right things can hange fastSoviet Union and nazi germany started ww2 allied, hummm
China might invade Taiwan, so nuke them now?
My neighbor might attack me so I shot him first.
“True, but do you actually see NATO invading...”
By this logic, Putin isn’t a threat because we don’t see him “actually invading” Poland or the Baltics.
My goodness
Putin has a history of invading, Crimea, Georgia, Chechnya and now all of Ukraine
There is a huge difference between preparing for a defensive war and launching an invasion because you think you might be invaded, but by Ukraine?
Why didn’t he invade Poland if he thinks NATO is a threat? Are you saying that once the cornerstone of the NATO plan, Ukraine joining NATO, then snap goes the trap and it’s off to Moscow?
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