[patriot torch]

I really enjoy Robert Breakers style of teaching. Easy to follow and supported by Bible Scripture.

He has garnered over 92 million views on his you tube videos.

enjoy

[roving]

Of course, it is.

[Telepathic Intruder]

Whatever. If you want to believe you’ll magically disappear before it all hits the fan then you demand too much.

[Gratia]

“Immature Christians”

Always astonishing to me how dedicated so many Christians are to belittling other Christians.

[patriot torch]

I posted this 55 minute video about 43 minutes ago. And already the scoffers are scoffing. Watch the video first. Then feel free to offer your rebuttal.

[Bob434]

I beleive the evidence for prescribed is stronger than mid or post trib, but it’s not a hill im gonna defend to the pointmof causing strife and anger with thkse who beleive differently. Pre, mid or post, in the end, we Wil. Be with Jesus in heaven or in the new Jerusalem and thats plenty of with me!

[Tennessee Nana]

That’s right

[Just mythoughts]

It might be interesting to remember that since the beginning the majority has never been on the side of ‘right’ ... Breakers style is ignoring 99.9% of the Word to sell a fairy tale/tail.

[Paraclete]

Faith, HOPE and love and the greatest of these is LOVE.

All three are core characteristics of followers of Christ. None of them exist apart from the other.

[stockpirate]

I think the tribulation is unsupported by scripture, as in it doesn’t happen.

[LouAvul]

What is it with you people posting religion in chat? Is there no moderation anymore? This goes in religion.

[Albion Wilde]

I was taught that Lutherans don't believe in a rapture because of the Parable of the Tares -- Jesus said that pulling them out would damage the good wheat; i.e. minions of satan will be among us on earth until the trumpet sounds and Christ returns in glory.

We can certainly see it in the way CW2 / WW3 is being conducted. Unlike the last civil war, there is no majority on either side of a neat dividing line. We are all scattered together; and BigGov is passing all the laws it can to make sure there is no escape, no where to go.

[Cronos]

The Bible does not support a pre-tribulation rapture

Daniel's visions ended with the Resurrection of the Lord on Passover and the inauguration of the Kingdom of heaven on Pentecost

the Olivet discourse first part talks of the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and the rest at the end of time does not have a pre-tribulation rapture.

The epistles do not support the pre-tribulation rapture

And the book of Revelation does not talk anything about a pre-tribulation rapture.

Darby invented the 19th century rapture philosophy

In 1830 Darby met fifteen-year-old Mararet MacDonald, who claimed to have had a private revelation of a secret rapture that would occur shortly

flash alert -- the "secret rapture" didn't occur in 1830 nor in 1870 nor in 1914 nor in 2012 -- but the gullible who persist in believing in the 19thc century creation of secret pre-Trib rapture keep falling for it

Let's go through all of the hilarious rapture fails

• Even the great Billy Graham fell for it
  • In a 1950 issue of US News and World reportGraham stated "Two years and it's all going to be over." Flash alert: we're past 1952 and still going
    
    
  • April 1984 Graham proclaimed, "Anybody who's anybody believes that global war is imminent"
    
    
  • 1995 "When will the end be?.... Every indication is that it will be sooner than we think
• Hal lindsey in 1970 The late great planet earth -- with the Rapture idea that the rapture was due before the end of the 1980s - FAIL
  
  
• 1978 Chuck Smith, Evangelical pastor wrote "The Lord is coming before the end of 1981" -- errr.. another fail
  
  
• Gary Wilburn in Christianity todayin 1979 wrote "The world must end within one generation from the birth of the state of Israel. Any opinion of world affairs that does not dovetail with this prophecy is dismissed" -- Rapturists claim that this means the rapture must occur within forty years of the founding of Israel in 1948 -- FAIL. The year 1988 came and went
  
  
• in 1988, Edgar Whisenat published and distributed his pamphlet 88 reasons why the rapture will be in 1988 -- He specified September as the month in which Christ would return -- bzzz. RAPTURE-FAIL again.
  
  
• But the rapture didn't occur in 1988 so Whisenant wrote 89 reasons why the rapture will be in 1989
  
  
• Then rapture-fails sorry rapturists claim that this 40 year should be counted from 1967 - RAPTURE-FAIL again as 2007 came and went.
  
  
• Jerry Falwell in 1989 sent out a mass mailing In just a few days we will enter what will be the final decade!
  
  
• On december 19, 1994, US News and world report stated that 1 in 5 Americans believed the world would end within a few years!
  
  RAPTURE-FAIL once more
  
  
• Pat Robertson on May 12, 1994 We are talking about the final age of humankind right now... Please call and make a pledge... your dollars may not do any good in give years or so"
  
  Then you got the Rapture-fails of the Left Behind series
  
  
• the Rapture fail of the "The Bible Code" that all life would be wiped out when a comet crashed into the earth in 2012 -- err.. that didn't happen, another rapture fail

Net - net, this fake 19th century philosophy has been shown to be continuously failing and still rapturists follow it - adding on a few more years each time they fail

Let me remind you what Dr John Walvoord, President of the Dallas Theological Seminary in the 1950s and pre-Trib rapturist wrote in his 1957 book The Rapture question

The Rapture question is determined more by ecclesiology than eschatology. Neither postrtibulationalism nor pretribulationalism is an explicity teaching of Scripture. The bible does not in so many words state it

The 19th century Darby philosophy of rapturism fails each time

Premillenialism is a fail -