Posted on 09/03/2023 6:41:06 AM PDT by patriot torch
17Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them,
18And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?
19And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
Did Paul penned something about those who are hell bent on believing lies?
20Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
21Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
22Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:
23Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
According to my NIV Study Bible the “Key of David” (Rev 3:7) refers to the Messiah, the Son of David, who holds the keys to the kingdom of heaven.
Not sure how this relates to what Just mythoughts is talking about.
Revelation 1:17-19
King James Version
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
Christ has/is the key of David! What is written about David that seems to be hidden ... Hint ... what does the name the Adam literally mean, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
be dyed, made red ruddy
To show blood (in the face), i.e. Flush or turn rosy — be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).
How long before somebody is going to cry that is ‘racists’?
I have spent near 40 years studying ... and I did not use some primer from some denomination telling me what to think. Imagine my surprise when I read for myself Genesis, the Garden Party and it took place in a FIG grove, not one word about an apple orchard. Now what did Christ command ... learn ye the parable of the fig tree ...
yeah it is a matter of convenience.
I'm not taking the bait.
It is obvious you have NO clue what the ‘key of David’ literally is... and it is NOT at my convenience to take my time to explain it to you. When you find where the ‘key of David’ is Written, take note as to WHO explains. You are not ready for prime time answers.
As I suspected, you are from one of the many small insular groups believing they exclusively hold the keys to prophecy and that their group is written of in end time prophecy.
You believe your group to be the woman taken away to a place of safety on the wings of an eagle. If only you knew how many other small groups believe the same.
You could not be further - farther from the truth ... I do not care what prepackaged 7-11 convenience doctrines claim. What denomination was Christ?
I'm very confident it means (to him) that the small group he belongs to believes they exclusively hold the keys to prophecy and only they can understand prophecy.
snicker, you have no means or method to calculate how big 'my' group is, but you do LIE when you accuse me of exclusively holding keys to prophecy ... ... wonder why Paul quoted Elijah 1 Kings 19:18 “Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.”
Romans 11:14 “But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.”
See Paul covered all the avenues not just the dead end convenience 7/11 and Paul told every one the 'group' is small.
Now go howl at the moon!
Because I have no desire to.
but you do LIE when you accuse me of exclusively holding keys to prophecy
Are you saying you share the keys with another small group?
wonder why Paul quoted Elijah 1 Kings 19:18 “Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.” Romans 11:14 “But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.” See Paul covered all the avenues not just the dead end convenience 7/11 and Paul told every one the 'group' is small.
Why cite scripture about small remnants if you are not part of a small group?
Now go howl at the moon!
Your pridefullness is obviously protecting a weak faith. Otherwise, rather than diving into personal insults at the first discomfort, you would try to edify.
excellent point
You promote a lie, and you have the nerve to accuse me of pride?
I have done my homework ... and I know when somebody claims something that did NOT come from the Heavenly Father ... I showed you what the Heavenly Father had to say about flying to save souls and you accuse me of pride ..
Get behind me . . . . .
Ok, although I'm unsure how that has bearing on the thread topic aside from you not being one of the 144,000 by virtue of being a female.
Now when I meet my Maker, I would like to know IF I had a choice when He place me in my mother's womb!
I'm unsure why you are asking other than to divert attention away from the thread topic and how you believe the Key of David pertains to the thread topic.
Yet you refuse to explain in any sort of coherent manner how.
and you have the nerve to accuse me of pride?
Then what is it? I'm trying to be civil.
I have done my homework .
Why keep it secret? Share it with us for our edification.
.. and I know when somebody claims something that did NOT come from the Heavenly Father ... I showed you what the Heavenly Father had to say about flying to save souls and you accuse me of pride .. Get behind me . . . . .
I am happy to discuss the thread topic in a civil, coherent way but I'm not seeing a way to do so. Let's just agree to disagree and move on.
We can certainly see it in the way CW2 / WW3 is being conducted. Unlike the last civil war, there is no majority on either side of a neat dividing line. We are all scattered together; and BigGov is passing all the laws it can to make sure there is no escape, no where to go.
I think if we look around at how prophecy is unfolding we won’t have very long to wait until that question is answered either way.
As for me and my household, we will continue serving the Lord and waiting for that Trumpet to sound.
Robert Breaker has several great teachings. Not only on the Rapture but on many issues.
Amen!
[24] Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: [25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. [26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. [27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? [28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? [29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. [30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. [31] Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: [32] Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof. [33] Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. [34] All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: [35] That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. [36] Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. [37] He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; [38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; [39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. [40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. [41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; [42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. [43] Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. [44] Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. [45] Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: [46] Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it. [47] Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: [48] Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. [49] So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, [50] And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. [51] Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord. [52] Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
Daniel's visions ended with the Resurrection of the Lord on Passover and the inauguration of the Kingdom of heaven on Pentecost
the Olivet discourse first part talks of the destruction of the temple in 70 AD and the rest at the end of time does not have a pre-tribulation rapture.
The epistles do not support the pre-tribulation rapture
And the book of Revelation does not talk anything about a pre-tribulation rapture.
Darby invented the 19th century rapture philosophy
In 1830 Darby met fifteen-year-old Mararet MacDonald, who claimed to have had a private revelation of a secret rapture that would occur shortly
flash alert -- the "secret rapture" didn't occur in 1830 nor in 1870 nor in 1914 nor in 2012 -- but the gullible who persist in believing in the 19thc century creation of secret pre-Trib rapture keep falling for itLet's go through all of the hilarious rapture fails
Net - net, this fake 19th century philosophy has been shown to be continuously failing and still rapturists follow it - adding on a few more years each time they fail
Let me remind you what Dr John Walvoord, President of the Dallas Theological Seminary in the 1950s and pre-Trib rapturist wrote in his 1957 book The Rapture question
The Rapture question is determined more by ecclesiology than eschatology. Neither postrtibulationalism nor pretribulationalism is an explicity teaching of Scripture. The bible does not in so many words state itThe 19th century Darby philosophy of rapturism fails each time
Premillenialism is a fail -
I don’t even waste time reading your posts
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