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California Gas Appliance Ban Extends To National RV's
Self Vanity - Rant | August 7, 2023 | self

Posted on 08/07/2023 6:03:36 AM PDT by redfreedom

We have a truck camper (slide in pickup camper) and typically camp in remote areas or national forests or national parks where there is no electrical hook-ups. This means, like many other campers, we depend on our gas-operated refrigerator to keep our food cold or frozen. Due to our age it is no longer comfortable to be climbing into the camper and especially out of bed at night, so we decided to get a conventional ball-hitch travel trailer.

To our amazement the majority of new travel trailers we looked at were all 12v batter powered only, that relied on a solar panel to keep the battery charged and the fridge going. Considering our knowledge of how undependable solar power is, the 12v fridges were unacceptable. One dealer proudly showed us a lithium battery setup on a trailer, right beside a propane tank. He said they need to be taken into a warm building during the winter. I couldn't believe it, a fire hazard when you camp and in the home during the winter.

I asked some of the dealers what do the campers do during cloudy days. The standard answer was to just run the truck to charge the battery or run a generator. This is beyond stupid, to run a big V-8 for a few hours on cloudy daya to charge a battery. Imagine the gasoline use not to mention the pollution this solar joke is supposed to eliminate. We've camped around generators for years. Some are Honda whisper quiet, some are un-muffled Harley Davidson loud. The idea of camping in the wild is to get away from all that noise.

I asked the dealers what's causing this major switch. One sales guy said it's because the gas ones are big and bulky and always need repairs. Both answers are outright lies. I got the truth from a dealer in northern Minnesota. He said the California gas ban is leading this. Manufacturers decided to follow their standard nationwide, thus go with solar/12v fridges only. What's worse is 12v fireplaces and water heaters are next making the entire camper gas free and solely dependent upon solar. I asked this guy about RV lithium batteries. He has friends that are outfitters that use lithium batteries for their electric boat motors. It does not even have to be down to 32F for them to quit. They will not work in the cold and they will not charge in the cold.

We bought a brand new 12v model and are having a 120v/gas-operated fridge installed. The dealer is giving us a trade in allowance for the lefty 12v taken out. We are keeping the camper's 200 watt solar set-up for the 12v CPAP and furnace blower - both will kill the battery in one day without a recharge.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Travel
KEYWORDS: california; gasban; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; kalifornia; planaccordingly; rvs
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This madness will not affect those of you that stay at commercial or state campgrounds that have electrical hook-ups. But those of you that enjoy national parks or the wild that have no 120v hook-ups, your best bet is to keep your gas operated RV or pay a bundle for a conversion to gas.
1 posted on 08/07/2023 6:03:36 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: redfreedom

I forgot to say only the fridge is 12v only for this new standard. The water heater and furnace are still gas operated until the full switch to 12v comes in the near future, making the camper 100% dependent upon a commercial power hook-up at the campgrounds or solar in the remote areas. The lithium batteries will likely be with the full gas-ban standard.

You won’t need to get fire wood. Just wait for the lithium battery to light up.


2 posted on 08/07/2023 6:09:00 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: redfreedom

Every day now I wake up to some new insanity. Maybe it’s better to keep sleeping.


3 posted on 08/07/2023 6:11:54 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: redfreedom

Madness.


4 posted on 08/07/2023 6:12:58 AM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: redfreedom

Government banning things people use every day is pure Insanity


5 posted on 08/07/2023 6:14:14 AM PDT by butlerweave
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The standard answer was to just run the truck to charge the battery or run a generator.

So you die of carbon monoxide poisoning....................

6 posted on 08/07/2023 6:14:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: redfreedom
Here in Alabama a lot of campers at state parks love camping in the trees in the shade ...

where there's no solar.

7 posted on 08/07/2023 6:16:50 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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“You won’t need to get fire wood. Just wait for the lithium battery to light up.”

Good one! But campfires and charcoal grilling will certainly be outlawed.


8 posted on 08/07/2023 6:16:57 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: redfreedom

A 120 volt fridge will function from a 12 v battery and an inverter.

That’s what I have used for years and years. I plug the camper in when 120 v power is available and use the battery /inverter when it is not.


9 posted on 08/07/2023 6:19:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, but you’ll be warm. I figure you as a “glass is half empty guy…”. Complaining about dying from carbon monoxide… sheesh. There’s just no pleasing some people. /s


10 posted on 08/07/2023 6:19:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: redfreedom

It is pointless to buy a camper under California laws, which is the point. Nobody buying campers, means no road trips. 15 minute cities.


11 posted on 08/07/2023 6:20:28 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: redfreedom

bttt


12 posted on 08/07/2023 6:21:56 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: DesertRhino

“We all gotta die of something!” - Dr. Joycelyn Elders.............


13 posted on 08/07/2023 6:24:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: butlerweave

Went to buy a replacement brass sprinkler and found it’s against the law to sell them in California for several years now. I had to order it from out of state.


14 posted on 08/07/2023 6:24:45 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers! Remember the J6 political prisoners!)
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To: Red Badger

If your vehicle is in the open air, CO shouldn’t be a problem. Running it in a poorly ventilated garage gets you CO poisoning.


15 posted on 08/07/2023 6:25:24 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: redfreedom

Does anyone have the guts to tell KKKalifornia to go fsck itself, and just make stuff for Americans?


16 posted on 08/07/2023 6:26:26 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: redfreedom

Good Post ! Enjoyed you BIO as well ! Thanks-


17 posted on 08/07/2023 6:28:09 AM PDT by InkStone (ONLY returning to Faith in God, thru Jesus Yeshua, will save America)
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To: Jonty30

Exactly what these “Elites” want. Take away the peoples means of movement makes it easier to monitor. It’s all about consolidating their power by enslaving the people and taking away their wealth or what little we will have left.


18 posted on 08/07/2023 6:28:12 AM PDT by grcuster
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To: scrabblehack

Even that doesn’t always guarantee no CO poisoning.

The three Marines at Camp Lejeune died from CO in their car with the engine running and the AC on at a convenience store................


19 posted on 08/07/2023 6:29:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: cymbeline

So when try try to write you a ticket for having a campfire just tell them it is the Lithium battery burning which is OK


20 posted on 08/07/2023 6:34:31 AM PDT by oldasrocks (uit )
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