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Insurance company drops customer saying a 'drone' took photos of clutter in yard
KGO (Bay Area ABC 7) ^ | 07/19/2023 | Michael Finney and Renee Koury

Posted on 08/04/2023 3:21:44 PM PDT by DFG

Just as wildfire season gets underway, homeowners insurance is becoming more and more scarce. Some companies aren't writing any new policies, while others are dropping longtime customers. Among them is an East Bay man who was told he lost his insurance -- based on photos taken by a drone over his property.

It came as a shock. At first, he was told he'd lost his insurance because "drone photos" taken over his property showed hazards in his yard. But the company would not show him the pictures. Later he was told there was no drone, just aerial photos. He felt it intruded on his privacy, with no way to reinstate his policy.

Drones sometimes fly over CJ Sveen's Oakley house. He never thought much of it -- until now.

"Apparently they have some pictures, and they noticed clutter," Sveen said.

Sveen was shocked when he got this notice from his longtime home insurance carrier, California State Automobile Association (CSAA) Insurance Group, a AAA insurer.

"They're going to be terminating our homeowner's insurance policy," Sveen said.

His house isn't in a fire zone, and he's never filed a single claim in 15 years. Instead, the notice said CSAA found "debris, hazardous conditions, tires or a dilapidated car" in his yard.

But how would they know that? No one ever came to inspect. So, Sveen called the company.

"And they said, 'Oh, we sent over a drone.' And like, they have a drone that they sent over my property. Just flew into my yard. So, very shocked, yeah," Sveen said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: california; csaa; drone; homeownersinsurance; insurance; sveen
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To: CFW
...Who defines clutter? Is a car being repaired over the weekend clutter? Is four tires setting to the side of the driveway considered clutter if your cousin plans to come get them tomorrow to use on the vehicle he is restoring? Is the pile of limbs you have collected after last week’s storms considered clutter?...

Or how about a compost heap?

21 posted on 08/04/2023 5:15:22 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: DFG
Drones sometimes fly over CJ Sveen's Oakley house. He never thought much of it -- until now.

Might I suggest using your shotgun?

22 posted on 08/04/2023 5:18:58 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: DFG

Insurance companies have been getting pretty bold in their antics. It started with photos of the outside of the house. Okay, seems reasonable. Then, it moved on to wind mitigation inspections. Okay. Then it became inspections of the INSIDE, requiring updates to the electrical panels, replacement of hot water heaters because they’re 10 years old (even though still functioning fine) and I’m told that some are even requiring roof replacements after a number of years. The only thing threatening some roofs is the skyrocketing premiums.


23 posted on 08/04/2023 5:42:11 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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To: newzjunkey

Just an excuse to drop him. Probably learned his politics didn’t stand up to their policies.


24 posted on 08/04/2023 5:49:52 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I guess you missed the smiley face indicating sarcasm.


25 posted on 08/04/2023 6:07:43 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Unless they’ve blurred it out.


26 posted on 08/04/2023 6:59:33 PM PDT by bgill
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To: BipolarBob
Well, it might be time to clean up the clutter. Just sayin’.

I know a guy that collects scrap metal. Some of it goes to the scrap yard, some of it he welds together to make pieces of art. His yard is a mess, but he's out in the country where there's no rule against it, and it's how he makes money. So is his yard "cluttered"? Who decides?

27 posted on 08/04/2023 8:21:26 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: BipolarBob

“Well, it might be time to clean up the clutter. Just sayin’”

Or invest in a garage...


28 posted on 08/04/2023 8:50:05 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

“They didn’t need to use a drone. In all likelihood they used Google Maps. “

I’m guessing both...Google Maps gets them started - shows that there’s something worth droning, and then they use the drone for the kill.


29 posted on 08/04/2023 8:53:49 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
Who decides?

The state and the insurance company. Individual rights are eroding day by day. This guy lives in California where there is no expectation of privacy, rights, freedom or ownership. Californians should move.

30 posted on 08/05/2023 5:21:51 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I shot a man in Reno (with a paint gun) just to watch him dye.)
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To: DFG

ROTF.

Guess what assessors in NYS use to see if folks are lowballing property tax assessments.

Bet they do in CA, too.

Is anyone having a cow?

As for not having a proper standoff, no sympathy for the dude.


31 posted on 08/05/2023 5:24:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

My bet is the small print in his insurance policy makes it very clear, especially when it comes to defensible space.


32 posted on 08/05/2023 5:25:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PRC&sectionNum=4291.

The law on CA on defensible space.


33 posted on 08/05/2023 5:29:38 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

...in CA...


34 posted on 08/05/2023 5:29:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Might I suggest using your shotgun?

A personal, directional EMP tool would also be helpful. If there were such a thing.

35 posted on 08/05/2023 5:53:15 AM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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