Posted on 07/20/2023 5:44:19 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
The City was perfectly quiet yesterday, and everything gave indications of a permanent restoration of law and order. Large numbers of people visited the scenes of the late riots, and the events of the past week were almost the sole topic of conversation. It appears to be generally understood that the Government is determined to enforce the draft here, as in other places, and the consequences that are likely to ensue when the drawing recommences formed a large staple of conversation among the people. The number of persons who oppose this determination on the part of the Government is largely decreasing; but those who continue their opposition are more desperate and violent in their language than ever. They are full of threats and warnings as to the havoc which they are going to make with all sublunary things -- which, together with the flood of anonymous letters that they have commenced sending hither and thither, is the best evidence of their weakness, and of the forlorn condition of their cause. Many are under the impression that the draft is to commence again to-day, but we are informed that it will not begin until the exact quota of this City is definitely determined and publicly announced, by which time the Government will be prepared to execute this as well as all other laws of Congress in this City, regardless of anonymous threats or of open violence.
HIGHLY IMPORTANT ORDER.
Citizens to Return the State Arms.
TEMPORARY HEADQUARTERS, ST. NICHOLAS HOTEL, NEW-YORK CITY, July 20, 1863.
SPECIAL ORDERS, No. 17. -- A sufficient force of the National Guard of the State having arrived in this City to enable the civil authorities to maintain the public peace and enforce order, the Commander-in-Chief directs that the several citizen volunteer organizations,
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Featured article – “Conversations with Gen. Thomas”. Secretary of War Stanton ordered Adjutant General Lorenzo Thomas to make an inspection tour of the western theater. This is his story. Read it on pages 6-8 or here => https://www.nytimes.com/1863/07/20/archives/conversations-with-gen-thomas-the-negro-regiments-in-the.html?searchResultPosition=1
Condition of the City: A Quiet Sunday – 2
Change of Commanders in the Department of the East – 2
Later from New-Orleans: Further Particulars of the Capture of Port Hudson – 2-3
Operations Against Charleston: Interesting Letter from Our Special Correspondent – 3-4
The War in Tennessee: Sharp Cavalry Skirmish at Jackson – 4
Rebel Reports from Charleston: A Skirmish on James Island – 4
News from Washington: Our Special Washington Dispatches – 4-6
Conversations with Gen. Thomas: The Negro Regiments in the Mississippi Valley – 6-8
Editorial: The Enforcement of the Draft – 8-9
Editorial: The New Attempt on Charleston – 9
Editorial: Militiamen as Soldiers-Their Value and Defects – 9-10
The Destitute Blacks – 10
Who Are Exempt from the Draft? – 10
The Draft – 10
Brooklyn News – 10
In Oklahoma (then Indian Territory), for the first and possibly only time in US history, the majority of troops on both sides were non-white.
Outnumbered Union troops included their Native American allies (Creeks, Seminoles, Delaware, Kickapoo, Quapaw, Seneca, and Shawnee, Osage & Cherokee) and the 1st Kansas Colored regiment.
Confederate troops included Confederate Indian allies (Cherokees, Choctaws, Chickasaws & Creeks), plus Texas Cavalry.
Oklahoma 1861 - '63 Engagements
| Date | Engagement | Military Units | Losses | Victor |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nov 19, 1861 | Round Mountain, OK | Union: Creeks & Seminoles (Opothleyahola ~1,700) & Confederate Cavalry (Cooper, ~1,400) | Union 110-total (unkwn-killed), Confederates 10-total (6-killed) | CSA (CSA outnumbered) |
| Dec 9 | Chusto-Talasah, OK | Union Creek & Seminole allies (Opothleyahola ~2,500) & Confederate Texas cavalry + Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek & Cherokee allies (Cooper ~1,300) | Union 500-total (9-killed), Confederates 467-total (30-killed) | CSA (CSA outnumbered) |
| Dec 26 | Chustenahlah, OK | Union Creek & Seminole allies (Opothleyahola ~1,700) & Confederate Texas Cavalry (McIntoxh, Stand Watie ~1,380) | Union 430-total (2,000 later starved), Confederates 49-total (9-killed) | CSA (CSA outnumbered) |
| Oct 22, 1862 | Old Fort Wayne, OK | Union Army of the Frontier, 1st Division -- Kansas, Indiana, Cherokee regiments (Blunt, 3,500), Confederate Army of Trans-Mississippi, 1st Brigade -- Cherokee, Chawktaw, Chickasaw, Creek (Cooper ~1,500) | Union 14-total (2-killed?), Confederates 150-total (15-killed) | USA |
| July 1-2 | Cabin Creek, OK | Union elements from 9 units, Colorado, Wisconsin, Kansas Colored and Indian Home Guard (Williams ~2,000?), Confederate Cherokee & Texas Cavalry (Stand Watie ~1,500?) | Union 145total (including ~15-killed), Confederates ~150? total (including 65-killed) | USA |
| July 17 | Honey Springs, OK | Union District of the Frontier, incl. 1st Kansas Colored, 1st Indian Home Guard (Blunt ~3,000), Confederate 1st Indian Brigade, Texas Cavalry (Cooper, Cabell ~6,000) | Union 200?-total (including 30?-killed), Confederates 500?-total (including 75?-killed) | USA (Union outnumbered -- majority of troops on both sides werfe non-white) |
In South Carolina, at the 2nd Battle of Fort Wagner, greatly outnumbered Confederates behind fortifications defeated the attacking Union X Corps, which again included the 54th Massachusetts, recognized for its heroism.
South Carolina 1861 - '63 Engagements
| Date | Engagement | Military Units | Losses | Victor |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| April 12-14, 1861 | Fort Sumter, SC | Confederate artillery (Beauregard), Union garrison (Anderson) | None | CSA |
| April 15 | Evacuation of Fort Sumter, SC | Union garrison | Two Union soldiers killed, four wounded by accidental explosion | N.A. |
| Nov 3-7 | Port Royal, SC | Union: Blockading Squadron (DuPont, TW Sherman -12,653 77 vessels) & Confederate SC Dept (RE Lee, Frazier -3,077 4 gunboats) | Union 31-total (8-killed), Confederates 63-total (11-killed) | USA |
| June 16, 1862 | Secessionville, Charleston, SC | Union Dept of the South (Benham ~6,000), Confederate SC 2nd District (Evans ~2,000) | Union 685-total (100?-killed), Confederates 204-total (30?-killed) | CSA (CSA outnumbered) |
| June 21 | Simon's Bluff, SC | Union 2-river boats, 55th PA Inf (Rhind ~500), Confederate SC 16th Inf (McCullough ~500) | no casualties reported | USA |
| Apr 7, 1863 | 1st Charleston Harbor, SC | Union S Atlantic Blockaid Squadron (DuPont 7-ships), Confederate 1st Mil District of SC (Beauregard 2-ships 385 land arty) | Union 22-total (1-killed, 1 ship sunk), Confederates 13-total (unkwn-killed) | CSA |
| July 10-11 | 1st Fort Wagner, SC | Union X Corps, 2nd Div (Gillmore ~4,000), Confederate Fort Wagner garisson (PGT Beauregard 1,770) | Union 339-total (including 12-killed), Confederates 12-total (including 2-killed) | CSA |
| July 16 | Gimball's Landing, SC | Union X Corps, Dept of the South, Stone River Flotilla (Terry, Balch ~3,800), Confederate 1st Mil Dist, SC (Hagood ~3.000) | Union 45-total (including 14-killed), Confederates 18-total (including 3-killed) | CSA (CSA outnumbered) |
| July 18 | 2nd Fort Wagner, SC | Union X Corps, Dept of the South (Gillmore ~5,000), Confederate Dept of SC, GA & FL (Beauregard ~1,800) | Union 1,515-total (including 246-killed), Confederates 174-total (including 36-killed) | CSA (CSA outnumbered -- Union assaulted fortified positions) |
In Ohio, Confederate John Morgan's raid into Indiana and Ohio was nearly surrounded & defeated at Buffington Island, on the Ohio River.
Ohio 1863 Engagements
| Date | Engagement | Military Units | Losses | Victor |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| July 19 | Buffington Island, OH | Union XIII Corps Cavalry Brigades ( ~3,000), Confederate Morgan's Kentucky Cavalry (Morgan ~1,930) | Union 55-total (including 25-killed), Confederates 902-total (including 52-killed) | USA |
Summary of Civil War Engagements as of July 20, 1863:
Engagements in Confederate states:
| State | Union Victories | Confederate Victories | Inconclusive | Total Engagements |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| South Carolina | 2 | 6 | 1 | 9 |
| Virginia | 11 | 33 | 14 | 58 |
| North Carolina | 8 | 1 | 1 | 10 |
| Florida | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| Louisiana | 10 | 2 | 1 | 13 |
| Tennessee | 11 | 7 | 1 | 19 |
| Arkansas | 9 | 1 | 2 | 12 |
| Georgia | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
| Mississippi | 11 | 5 | 0 | 16 |
| Texas | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Alabama | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Total Engagements in CSA | 66 | 57 | 21 | 144 |
Engagements in Union states/territories:
| State | Union Victories | Confederate Victories | Inconclusive | Total Engagements |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Maryland | 3 | 1 | 3 | 7 |
| West Virginia | 9 | 3 | 2 | 14 |
| Missouri | 14 | 13 | 1 | 28 |
| New Mexico | 5 | 8 | 0 | 13 |
| Kentucky | 5 | 6 | 2 | 13 |
| Oklahoma | 3 | 3 | 0 | 6 |
| Pennsylvania | 2 | 1 | 3 | 6 |
| Indiana | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| Ohio | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Total Engagements in Union | 43 | 36 | 11 | 90 |
| Total Engagements to date | 109 | 93 | 32 | 234 |
Casualties for the three engagements totaled 3,346 including 464 killed in action.
These bring the war's totals, by my count, to nearly 480,000 casualties, including over 53,000 killed in action.
Sadly a lot of the suffering was caused by deliberate action. Out of need and simple rapaciousness by men on both sides,,Union and Confederate plundered and looted things from civilians. This was the case particularly after the battles of Antietam and Gettysburg. Even worse in both cases it was Union soldiers who were the worst.
Maybe, for certain I won't defend any misbehavior by any soldiers anywhere, in any war.
Being an army is all about adequate discipline, and when discipline breaks down it's no longer an army, just a mob.
But when comparing Union to Confederate armies, it's not insignificant to notice that wherever Union armies went, Confederate slaves left their homes and flocked to the Union side for protection.
Conversely, wherever Confederate armies went, they grabbed Union freed-blacks for transport and sale in Confederate slave markets.
Hi Joe. I subscribe to a magazine called “Civil War Times’’ and in it’s most recent issue I was shocked to learn of the aftermath of the Battle of Gettysburg and the looting undertaken by both sides but sad to say Union soldiers were rapacious.
One resident of the town said ‘’The Rebs at least left us a few chickens but them Yanks plum cleaned us down to the feed and took even that!’’.
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