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Dr Shiva Ayyadurai is NOT a “natural born Citizen” of the United States to Constitutional Standards – NOT Constitutionally Eligible to Be President and Commander-in-Chief of Our Military – Missing All 3 Legs re “nbC” Status
The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 14 Jul 2023 | CDR Kerchner (Ret)

Posted on 07/14/2023 12:30:28 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner

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To: Responsibility2nd

Not only no, but hell no. They have perverted the Constitution, we demand that the Constitution be followed.


41 posted on 07/14/2023 1:19:42 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: CDR Kerchner

Wrong! The Wong Kim Ark (1898) decision did NOT say he was a “natural born Citizen”. It only decided he was a Citizen.

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Correct. Because the term “natural born Citizen” is vague, poorly defined and not even the framers correctly understood the meaning. Hence the 14th Amendment. Hence the Wong Kim Ark decision settling on “citizen”. Hence etc.

You people need to give it up. Yes we know you hate Obama, Kamala, Niki, this Dr. Whoever....

But to try and label them as unqualified non NBC citizens is just laughable.


42 posted on 07/14/2023 1:21:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: CDR Kerchner

That didn’t stop Obama.


43 posted on 07/14/2023 1:26:32 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Robert DeLong

But some people say if you never needed to be naturalized,that makes you a natural born citizen.

Vivek was never naturalized because he was a citizen by birth. He was not naturalized along with his parents because he was already a citizen.

And according to some people that makes him a natural born citizen because he was born in America. Others disagree.


44 posted on 07/14/2023 1:27:43 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: CDR Kerchner
Used to live with "The Nanny", Fran Drescher, a big leftist. According to Wikipedia:
Beginning in 2014, Ayyadurai was romantically connected with actor Fran Drescher. On September 7, 2014, Ayyadurai and Drescher participated in a ceremony at Drescher's beach house. Both tweeted that they had gotten married,[ and the event was widely reported as such. Ayyadurai later said it was not "a formal wedding or marriage", but a celebration of their "friendship in a spiritual ceremony with close friends and her family". The couple split up in September 2016.

45 posted on 07/14/2023 1:28:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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To: Robert DeLong

Not only no, but hell no. They have perverted the Constitution, we demand that the Constitution be followed.

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Demand all you want too. File another 50-60 petitions and legal objections you want to. Hell, I’ll even join your protest party.

But history tells us that simply being a citizen is all anyone needs. No court no where will allow us a hearing.

The 14th Amendment tried and failed to address this ambiguous concept. Unless and until Congress once again addresses this and we pass a clear Amendment relative to NBC - we are stuck with the status quo.


46 posted on 07/14/2023 1:29:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Robert DeLong

Yes he has declared his intentions to run. Also see this: Dr.SHIVA LIVE: It’s UNCONSTITUTIONAL to Prevent a Naturalized US Citizen to Be President. Here’s WHY: https://vashiva.com/dr-shiva-live-its-unconstitutional-to-prevent-a-naturalized-us-citizen-to-be-president-heres-why/


47 posted on 07/14/2023 1:33:06 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“”Now who is Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai?””

New to me also!!!


48 posted on 07/14/2023 1:38:20 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: CDR Kerchner
Who dafuq is Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai?

Pretty sure his NBC status will be the least of his roadblocks if he is indeed running for president.

49 posted on 07/14/2023 1:38:30 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: CDR Kerchner
Well, in reality we have no say in the matter, because it's the party that makes a decision on eligibility. It's yet another reason why I am thoroughly disgusted with the Republican Party. If they will not safeguard that provision of the Constitution what else are they ignoring in the Constitution. They swore an oath to preserve & protect the Constitution. There is a legal method to change the constitution, and they are bypassing that that legal method.

BTW, no party has any connection to the government in any way. They are all private organizations.

That's why an undeclared political party is able to exit. I'm speaking of course of the Uni-party, a corrupt party that never participates in elections, only members of other political parties, and usually of only the Republican or Democrats Parties are members of the Uni-party. They ensure that the Uni-party members have the best opportunity for election, but if one should fail, they are given cushy jobs in the private sector based upon their education & the value they brought to the Uni-party. It doesn't matter to them if a Republican or a Democrat wins, as long as they are Uni-party members. In most elections the candidate running in both parties is a Uni-party member. So they are assured that a Uni-party member is elected in those races.

It's a rare occurrence that we can get one of ours elected. Right now we have 70 Congressional members, but they have 152 RINOs in place.

50 posted on 07/14/2023 1:43:47 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: CDR Kerchner

Is this the guy who couldn’t win a senate election in MA?


51 posted on 07/14/2023 1:51:47 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: nesnah

The “rights” are pretty well defined in the Bill of Rights.


52 posted on 07/14/2023 1:53:18 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: CDR Kerchner

The intent of the NBC clause was to ensure that existing citizens were not going to shift their loyalty back to a monarch; or to allow royals to run for President.

The 14th amendment settled the discussion of who was a citizen—anyone born in the US.

This has been settled for a long time. I don’t recall hearing this garbage during Dukakis’ run in ‘88.


53 posted on 07/14/2023 1:57:35 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Was there any NBC issue regarding Dukakis?


54 posted on 07/14/2023 2:01:09 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
No, that too is a distortion of the facts. What they were trying to do was include freed slaves & indentured servants, or offspring of indentured servants who were born here. It had nothing to do with designation of NBC, other than their offspring were considered to be NBC, but not them personally.

I agree with you that courts & politicians have obscured the true definition of what NBC actually is. That's why we the people need to stand up & demand the constitution be adhered to. I am more than willing to fight them, apparently you are more than willing to get away with not adhering to the Constitution.

That is one of the reasons why this country is declining.

55 posted on 07/14/2023 2:03:15 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: nickcarraway

hilldabeast was already out before it ever got to court, then no standing,


56 posted on 07/14/2023 2:03:59 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: nickcarraway

The Constitution is important but I don’t think it provides a definition of “natural born citizen.”


57 posted on 07/14/2023 2:04:26 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: big bad easter bunny

What court? I am talking about the Clinton opposition research machine.


58 posted on 07/14/2023 2:04:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ChessExpert

It doesn’t? So, they left it for some leftwing judge to make the call?


59 posted on 07/14/2023 2:05:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: CDR Kerchner

Okay, I had missed that. I did do a search: Dr. Shiva throw his hat into the presidential race, but got no hits. Search has become useless compared to how it used to be, and it was dumbed down on purpose just as they have dumbed down our educational system.


60 posted on 07/14/2023 2:09:16 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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