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Russia Admits Huge Losses of Junior Officers in Ukraine
YouTube ^ | 29 June 2023 | Jake Broe

Posted on 06/30/2023 8:42:53 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

On Kremlin state TV they admitted to taking horrendous losses of their junior officers and they have been graduating military cadets early as well as giving field promotions to sergeants in order to make them into officers and make up for their losses.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: blackrockswar; cadets; comeonbroe; demsunitedforbribes; demsunitedforukraine; globalistpropaganda; jakebroe; longwarandbigprofits
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Many interesting topics are covered, starting at 14 min 40 sec.

Straight from the horse's mouth on Russian State TV.

Like McNamara's 100,000, but this one is for Russian Officers.

Get them on the line, they can learn from OJT!

Eating the seed corn.

1 posted on 06/30/2023 8:42:53 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

And when they have burnt off the sons of the elites in Russia, who will be the next leaders for the Russian army?


2 posted on 06/30/2023 9:09:16 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Thanks for that!


3 posted on 06/30/2023 9:19:18 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"giving field promotions to sergeants in order to make them into officers and make up for their losses."

The Germans had this problem in the movie "Enemy at the Gates."

4 posted on 06/30/2023 9:20:11 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If one walks through the cemetery at West Point Military Academy there are quite a number of graves containing Lts and Captains from the Vietnam War.


5 posted on 06/30/2023 9:40:21 AM PDT by donozark (The Biden crime family makes Al Capone look like a piker.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

In the military, the real leaders are those of rank E-4 and above. They know the ropes and can lead squads and even companies, and sometimes battalions. I know; I saw first-hand how my sergeants took the leads in Vietnam. The officers took the reports and plans and orders from above, but, in combat, officers are not that needed.

It’s like in football, where the real leader on the field is the quarterback. The quarterback gets the plans from the coach and leads his men in execution.


6 posted on 06/30/2023 9:42:56 AM PDT by adorno
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7 posted on 06/30/2023 9:46:51 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They should stop shooting their own people.


8 posted on 06/30/2023 10:01:41 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: adorno

__”In the military, the real leaders are those of rank E-4 and above.”

The backbone of the US military is the NCO corps.
The Chinese are attempting to develop an NCO corps.
This does not happen with tribes/factions running everything.

IMO company-grade officers are a training/selection process for some heavy lifting.


9 posted on 06/30/2023 10:01:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

E-4 Mafia...


10 posted on 06/30/2023 10:34:33 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

—”E-4 Mafia..”

Led by Milo Minderbinder and his syndicate.

Yes, Milo did get carried away a few times...but everyone owns a share.


11 posted on 06/30/2023 10:43:35 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: donozark
If one walks through the cemetery at West Point Military Academy there are quite a number of graves containing Lts and Captains from the Vietnam War.

Some of them even killed by the enemy.

12 posted on 06/30/2023 11:03:05 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: DUMBGRUNT

LOL!!!

M&M Enterprises...


13 posted on 06/30/2023 11:24:38 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: adorno
Despite recent reform efforts, the Russian Army does not have a modern, reliable, well-trained NCO corps. As a result, Russian Army junior officers are required to fulfill the leadership role in combat that sergeants perform in the US and other Western militaries.

In addition, Russian military doctrine relies heavily on detailed battle plans, with troops and lower ranking officers expected to adhere to plans even when field conditions dictate otherwise. As a result, junior and middle ranking officers often have to expose themselves to enemy fire in combat.

14 posted on 06/30/2023 11:42:40 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Bayard

The purposeful murders of young, white men. This is what the communists want.


15 posted on 06/30/2023 12:16:05 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Since last fall in the November timeframe, Russia began a military expansion program. Three Corps of 500K to be newly formed after the November reorganization showing 160K in Special Operation, four separate commands combined in a unified 160K command, plus the first 500K Corps organized.

In May-June period the 2d or first new 500K Corps was combat ready bringing Russia up to 2 full Corps.,

In late August the 3d Corps is expected to be completed. In December 2023 the 4th Corps should be fully trained.

Russia has suffered approx 35K combat deaths and 80K WIA. Looking at combat units at least one officer per platoon of 40-50 soldiers; a company of 150-175 would have a CO and XO plus 4 platoon leaders as junior officers. A battalion would be 3-4 company’s led by a LTC and Major and total 500-600 men. That’s about 16 2LTs, 4 1LTs, 4 Captains plus the Major and LTC or 26 officers per 500-600 men.

I can see at least one dead officer per 20 enlisted. Take 35k KIAs and you lose to death 1800-2,000 and another 6,000-8,000 WIA. These estimates are for Infantry.... Other military units may be more Officer top heavy.

If you consider Russia has gone from 700K soldiers to an expansion of over 2m by December 2023.... WOW.

On top of the 4 Corps, Russia has called up 300K, and 400K in addition call ups that basically cover 2 year discharges.

By January 2024, Russia may have an active force of over 2M and a Reserve of combat aged men over 3M.


16 posted on 06/30/2023 12:46:01 PM PDT by Jumper (TYRANNY (You can have a Tranny without a Tyrants tYranny))
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—”By January 2024, Russia may have an active force of over 2M”

And they have to feed and clothe them...

Paid for with an economy smaller than Canada or Italy, ten other countries, and the top three US States.

That will be difficult to maintain in a country with a long-term declining population.

Not being in the workforce will be an additional drag on the Russian economy which has long been short-handed.


17 posted on 06/30/2023 1:12:15 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I think the need to bleed dictates force size. Russians believe Biden Admin when they said they are at War with Russia, and they wanted to collaspe Russia from Ukraine.

Three years from now they may be down to 1.2M.

They only have to worry about the active force as reserves are back in civilian population working or getting drunk.


18 posted on 06/30/2023 1:17:49 PM PDT by Jumper (TYRANNY (You can have a Tranny without a Tyrants tYranny))
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To: Jumper
Numbers by themselves do not tell the whole story. Look at all the problems the Russian army has had in Ukraine. Those problems extend to everything touching the Russian military including training. The US and NATO invests a lot of money in training. Russia cuts corners and takes it for granted.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russian military training facilities have been reduced in number, poorly maintained and managed. They don't have well run training programs anymore. Last winter, the training was keeping conscripts in one place to dump them on the front lines later. A lot of conscripts were dumped on the front lines and froze and starved to death for lack of winter gear, shelter, and food.

2 million warm bodies are not 2 million trained soldiers. To have trained soldiers Russia will have to rebuild all its military training programs. They have not even started on this.

19 posted on 06/30/2023 3:50:39 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: donozark

I graduated from Infantry Officer’s Basic (IOBC) at Ft. Benning in Nov 1967. Training was for newly commissioned 2LT’s or 1LT’s (lawyers) who had never been on active duty. The urgency of the training was emphasized by the instructors who were combat veterans. “Learn this or your dick will fall off, learn this or you’ll die in Vietnam” was the running joke. But not so funny. Many in my class of 270 died in combat in Vietnam, including the one who graduated first in the class, and the one who graduated last in the class.


20 posted on 06/30/2023 4:31:17 PM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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