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POLL: Which Is the most completely made-up holiday... Kwanza or Juneteeth?
6/19/2023 | DemiurgeIV

Posted on 06/19/2023 8:19:49 AM PDT by Demiurge2

Pick your grift... which of these holidays is the most wholly fabricated (hurry and vote before George Floyd's birthday is added to the ballot)?


TOPICS: History; Humor; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: diversity; juneteenth; kwanza; scams
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To: Demiurge2

Kwanzaa was made up by a black liberation Marxist felon in the 1960s. Same guy that was convicted of kidnapping and torturing two women. Send that fake day back to hell.


61 posted on 06/19/2023 9:06:34 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: Demiurge2

Just went to our bank, sign read:

CLOSED, in observance of NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE DAY, Juneteenth

Does this mean JULY 4th is no longer THE national Independence Day?


62 posted on 06/19/2023 9:08:49 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Demiurge2
Technically the slaves in Texas had already been freed by Abraham Lincoln on January 1,1863. To wit:

The Emancipation Proclamation, officially Proclamation 95, was a presidential proclamation and executive order issued by United States President Abraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, during the American Civil War. The Proclamation changed the legal status of more than 3.5 million enslaved African Americans in the secessionist Confederate states from enslaved to free. As soon as slaves escaped the control of their enslavers, either by fleeing to Union lines or through the advance of federal troops, they were permanently free. In addition, the Proclamation allowed for former slaves to "be received into the armed service of the United States".

So we have a national holiday celebrating a Union Army Military Govenor informing some former slaves in Texas that they were indeed free two years after the fact.

63 posted on 06/19/2023 9:11:33 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: Demiurge2

Juneteenth should ideally be acknowledged by freedom loving people everywhere. Not necessarily a “holiday” but an acknowledgment.


64 posted on 06/19/2023 9:12:43 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: BipolarBob

A lot of airing of grievances on this thread.


65 posted on 06/19/2023 9:13:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ConservativeDude

I acknowledge it as a Texas celebration, but it has nothing to do with celebrating the end of slavery nationally.


66 posted on 06/19/2023 9:14:51 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: chajin

“Kwanzaa is a made up week-long celebration of what in the old days used to be called Negritude.”

Négritude is a framework of critique and literary theory, developed mainly by francophone intellectuals, writers, and politicians of the African diaspora during the 1930s in France, aimed at raising and cultivating “Black consciousness” across Africa and its diaspora. It doesn’t exist except in the minds of a few people in Africa and is not an American holiday. That was created by activist Maulana Karenga, based on African harvest festival traditions from various parts of West and Southeast Africa. Maulana Ndabezitha Karenga, previously known as Ron Karenga, is an American activist, author, convicted felon and professor of Africana studies at Cal State San Louis Obispo at the time of the invention.

wy69


67 posted on 06/19/2023 9:21:00 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Reily

those slaves freed in Galveston Tx were the last slaves freed under the authority of Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.


68 posted on 06/19/2023 9:31:58 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: ModelBreaker

Juneteenth commemorates an actual date and event. The other is a bit less genuine than Festivus.


69 posted on 06/19/2023 9:37:31 AM PDT by katana
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To: xkaydet65

MD and MO had outlawed slavery by then. Only KY and DE retained legal slavery until the 13th Amendment was ratified.


70 posted on 06/19/2023 9:37:38 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: ModelBreaker
Juneteenth is a whopper.

Texas was part of the Confederacy not the Union.

The Civil War officially ended April 9, 1865.

The 13th Amendment was ratified on December 6th, 1865.

Pretty much destroys that made up story. But hey, some of us get a holiday.

71 posted on 06/19/2023 9:40:15 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Demiurge2

MLK birthday


72 posted on 06/19/2023 9:42:10 AM PDT by DFG
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To: Bull Snipe
Lincoln had no authority over Texas, Jefferson Davis did.

Doesn't anybody know that Texas was part of the Confederacy?

73 posted on 06/19/2023 9:43:52 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Demiurge2

Charlie Kirk is on a loooong rant about Juneteenth.


74 posted on 06/19/2023 9:45:56 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Tommy Revolts

Lincoln had no authority over any Confederate state until his army occupied it.


75 posted on 06/19/2023 9:50:31 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I like your idea. June used to be an exciting month. Summer! Fun, and vacations. I can’t wait for it to be over. In your face every single minute. OMG.


76 posted on 06/19/2023 9:56:39 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: Bull Snipe

The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the rebel South. It was done as a form of economic warfare like the blockade. In a sense it still left human beings as a form of property. Technically & legally it could have been revoked. The 13th Amendment ended that and not just there but for as long as the US Constitution held sway.

The 13th made it national. It should celebrated as such.
Those who push this June teeth nationally have another agenda. I guarantee it’s not an America as a nation agenda.


77 posted on 06/19/2023 10:12:59 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: chajin
It's basically the difference between having the government collect your work-gained wealth in order to spend it on building barns for the collective farm, and teaching people it is a good thing to help your neighbor build his barn on his property, and for your neighbor to help you build yours.

In Christianity and Aristotle, the cooperation is willing. In socialism it is compelled. And socialism always comes with concentration camps.

78 posted on 06/19/2023 10:22:57 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Demiurge2

Both.But I can’t complain too much about Juneteenth....my birthday’s a holiday now.


79 posted on 06/19/2023 10:28:55 AM PDT by dm4
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To: ModelBreaker

Juneteenth celebrates the day news of the Emancipation Proclamation, which had been signed 18 months earlier, reached Texas. It is a black mark (ahem) on the history of my state.


80 posted on 06/19/2023 10:38:01 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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