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A Grave Warning About Antarctica Is Hidden Inside Octopus DNA
Science Alert ^ | 16 June 2023 | By CARLY CASSELLA

Posted on 06/16/2023 9:12:27 AM PDT by Red Badger

Pink Octopus Arm (Micro Discovery/Getty Images)

Ocean bays that pinch West Antarctica are home to two distinct populations of Turquet's octopus (Pareledone turqueti). The shared secrets of their ancestors do not bode well for the future health of our planet.

A recent DNA analysis of the two geographically separated octopus populations, published earlier this year ahead of peer review, indicates they were once part of one big family.

This "direct historical connection" suggests that around 125,000 years ago, the massive 2.2 million cubic kilometer (530,000 cubic mile) West Antarctic ice sheet that separates the two bays had fully collapsed into the sea.

West Antarctica Octopuses

The two populations of Turquet's octopus in the Weddell and Ross Sea. (Sally Lau/Twitter)

Scientists who sequenced the genomes of octopus populations in both the Weddell and Ross Seas found evidence of ancestral gene flow between the two populations roughly 70,000 years ago, suggesting that "an ancient seaway was likely once opened across the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, which directly linked the present day Weddell Sea and Ross Sea".

"This could only be facilitated by a complete West Antarctic Ice Sheet collapse during an interglacial period, which we infer to have occurred approximately between 68 and 265 [thousand years go]," they write.

If it happened then, it could very well happen again, especially since global temperatures are reaching a similar threshold today.

At the moment, scientists don't really know whether West Antarctica is at risk of fully collapsing due to the climate crisis. It's one of the major uncertainties left to solve in climate models.

While some experts warned of disaster in the region as far back as 50 years ago, other climate models made just 10 years ago predicted no significant ice loss in Antarctica within the century.

How wrong that turned out to be.

Today, West Antarctica is discharging melting icebergs the size of major metropolises much faster than the rest of the continent.

One of its glaciers is known as the 'Doomsday Glacier' because if it collapses, it could cause 65 centimeters of sea level rise all on its own. Climate scientists recently warned the glacier was holding on "by its fingernails".

So how long will the region continue to dangle on a cliff's edge?

Of course, the past collapse was due to a natural cycle in Earth's climate. It was not caused by rapid global warming, triggered by human fossil fuel emissions during what should be a planetary cold spell, as it is today.

If the entire West Antarctic ice sheet collapses from human-induced global warming, forming an archipelago in the southern ocean, the resulting environmental catastrophe is hard to fathom.

Scientists predict sea levels could rise by 3.3 to 5 meters (11 to 17 feet) around the world, overturning water circulation in oceans globally and drastically reshaping the coastlines of continents.

"Currently, future West Antarctic ice sheet collapse on centennial timescales is considered as a low likelihood process," researchers of the octopus paper write.

Yet even the most optimistic future models predict air temperatures will reach 1.2 to 1.7 °C by 2100, and as the authors point out, that is "potentially within the tipping point of future West Antarctic ice sheet collapse".

Currently, over half the ice shelves holding up the Antarctic ice sheet are on the brink of caving in, and if they crumble, it could possibly lead to irreversible losses.

If Turquet's octopuses in the southern ocean are ever reunited with their long-lost family members, it will mean our planet has entered truly troubled waters.

The study was published in bioRxiv.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: 25pt1327408; antarctic; antarctica; catastrophism; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; helixmakemineadouble; octopi; octopus
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To: ifinnegan

No. What they’ve shown is that the climate warmed long before climate warmists had a collective brain fart.


21 posted on 06/16/2023 9:30:31 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Red Badger

Pulpo is ok. I prefer calamari


22 posted on 06/16/2023 9:31:47 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Red Badger

OK, I’m putting that as # 1047 on my list of things to worry about.


23 posted on 06/16/2023 9:33:16 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: Vaquero

Calamari is squid.....................


24 posted on 06/16/2023 9:33:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
If it happened then, it could very well happen again, especially since global temperatures are reaching a similar threshold today.

And life continued to thrive because that is what it does.

25 posted on 06/16/2023 9:35:08 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Red Badger
the resulting environmental catastrophe is hard to fathom.

Scientists predict sea levels could rise by 3.3 to 5 meters (11 to 17 feet) around the world,

So the unfathomable catastrophe is about two to three fathoms.

26 posted on 06/16/2023 9:35:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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To: Red Badger

And also note how they reverse the scenario around...what they should be saying is that their discovery proves that maybe as little as 68k years ago, the ice sheet had totally collapsed naturally, and the two bodies or water were connected.

They should also be then asking...how many times and how often has this happened NATURALLY previously?


27 posted on 06/16/2023 9:36:00 AM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: dfwgator

I blame the Germans for plate teutonics.


28 posted on 06/16/2023 9:36:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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To: Red Badger
The shared secrets of their ancestors do not bode well for the future health of our planet.

The planet does not have health. Even if it did, who is to say what is good or poor health. I stopped reading there as the author has zero credibility by saying such things. It has nothing to do with real science.

29 posted on 06/16/2023 9:41:10 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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To: rottndog

It is as if they believe natural processes just ceased to take place once we came on the scene.


30 posted on 06/16/2023 9:44:00 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Red Badger
Global Warming? Or just a period of increased volcanic activity?


31 posted on 06/16/2023 9:50:31 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: dfwgator

Love it! No more anti-Pangea Pangeaphobes!!


32 posted on 06/16/2023 9:55:37 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: KarlInOhio
So the unfathomable catastrophe is about two to three fathoms.

I’m having trouble fathoming your fathoms in relation to the Fathom Catastrophe
33 posted on 06/16/2023 9:58:31 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Red Badger

Pulpo is octopus. I enjoy squid over octopus. Especially fried over linguine in a fra diavelo sauce


34 posted on 06/16/2023 9:59:21 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: piasa

“Natural processes” don’t fit the narrative, and that’s all this article is...narrative.


35 posted on 06/16/2023 10:01:32 AM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: rottndog

It’s all methane to me. Dog fish methane. Mighty fearsome stuff


36 posted on 06/16/2023 10:09:14 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: Red Badger; 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AnalogReigns; AndrewC; ...
This "direct historical connection" suggests that around 125,000 years ago, the massive 2.2 million cubic kilometer (530,000 cubic mile) West Antarctic ice sheet that separates the two bays had fully collapsed into the sea.
IOW, no it doesn't.
Thanks Red Badger.



37 posted on 06/16/2023 10:09:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpers are Republicans the same way Liz Cheney is a Republican.)
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To: Red Badger

And just the other day we learned that Africa was going to split apart.


38 posted on 06/16/2023 10:15:00 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: rktman

Right here:

https://redcube.myspreadshop.com/reunite+pangea?idea=5eeebddff93764589d2f886a


39 posted on 06/16/2023 10:18:59 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

Thanks.


40 posted on 06/16/2023 10:21:30 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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