Posted on 06/04/2023 5:58:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
The writings of the historian Plutarch form a significant portion of our information concerning the rise of the Roman Republic, and its eventual end. In one of those texts, Plutarch's "Lives", he recounts something rather strange--the appearance in the sky of a bright flash of light and, apparently, a cylindrical object whose color is "like molten silver". What exactly was he describing? Was it a UFO, as some people (apparently including at least professional scholars) believe? Or something else?
Did Ancient Romans See a UFO? I A strange account from Plutarch | 5:57
The Historian's Craft | 74.2K subscribers | 31K views | May 25, 2023
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Transcript 0:07 · the Greek historian and philosopher 0:10 · Plutarch has left behind several texts 0:12 · which form part of the basis for our 0:14 · understanding of both the rise of the 0:16 · Roman State and the fall of the Roman 0:18 · Republic 0:19 · his writing often took the form of 0:21 · biography and arguably his most famous 0:23 · work is the parallel lives which pairs a 0:26 · Greek and a Roman in order to shed light 0:28 · on perceived moral failings or to bestow 0:31 · Praise on both men for qualities that 0:33 · the two were thought to share in the 0:35 · life of the colors which recounts the 0:37 · actions of Lucius lascinius the Cullis a 0:40 · Roman general and Statesman who served 0:42 · in the third methodic war plutarik 0:44 · records something strange happening 0:46 · during one of the battles which a paper 0:48 · published in the classical Journal 0:49 · includes in a list of ancient accounts 0:51 · of UFOs the title of said papers thus 0:54 · unidentified flying objects in classical 0:56 · Antiquity and it is what inspired both 0:59 · this video and the title of Sid video 1:02 · I am not joking nor am I intending this 1:04 · to be clickbait that is the actual title 1:07 · of an academic paper published in an 1:09 · academic Journal 1:10 · so what is this mysterious account 1:14 · well plut gives a brief sketch of the 1:16 · third methodic War during which the 1:18 · colors engages the forces of Mithra 1:20 · deities of the sixth king of pontus and 1:22 · bithynia and during the fighting one of 1:25 · the other Roman generals Marcus Aurelius 1:27 · Kata who is also the other console at 1:29 · the time the second being the Cullis 1:31 · took the opportunity to attack 1:33 · the plan seems to have been something 1:35 · along the lines of the colors engaging 1:37 · with land forces while caught up by 1:39 · Beverly would attack with Naval forces 1:41 · but he lost 60 ships and apparently 1:43 · three or four thousand soldiers and then 1:46 · took refuge in the city of chelseedon 1:48 · localis approached the enemy Army but 1:50 · seeing the size apparently held back 1:53 · at the same time Rome was engaged in a 1:56 · bloody war with Sartorius in Spain and 1:59 · Sartorius had sent Marcus Morris to 2:01 · mythrough deities as a military advisor 2:03 · Mario's challenged Lucas and the two 2:05 · armies then Drew up ranks Plutarch then 2:08 · recorded the following 2:11 · but presently as they were on the point 2:13 · of joining battle with no apparent 2:15 · change of weather but all of a sudden 2:16 · the sky burst asunder and a huge 2:19 · flame-like body was seen to fall between 2:21 · the two armies in shape it was most like 2:24 · a wine jar and in color like molten 2:26 · silver 2:27 · both sides were astonished at the site 2:29 · and separated this Marvel as they say 2:32 · occurred in phrygia at a place called 2:35 · otrie this translation of the original 2:37 · Greek comes from the Loeb classical 2:39 · Library a collection of all the 2:41 · classical texts of Greece and Rome with 2:42 · the original language on the left-hand 2:44 · page and a more or less literal 2:46 · translation of the text in English on 2:48 · the right hand page that being said 2:51 · what is the event being described 2:54 · well unfortunately it probably is not a 2:57 · UFO but the truth is possibly more 2:59 · exciting the religion of ancient Rome 3:01 · was fairly well engaged with what we 3:03 · would understand to be Omens and 3:05 · divination 3:06 · they were the type of priest known as 3:08 · the horror specs meaning diviner who was 3:10 · responsible for examining the entrails 3:12 · of sacrificed animals in order to judge 3:15 · whether it was conducive to success or 3:17 · not to undertake certain actions like 3:19 · giving battle 3:21 · examining intrails however was not the 3:23 · only form of divination practiced by the 3:25 · Romans August were another form of 3:27 · diviner and these religious 3:29 · professionals were trained to interpret 3:30 · such things as thunder lightning the 3:32 · flights of birds Etc in order to 3:35 · determine the will of the gods or of the 3:37 · gods were displeased 3:38 · what plutocal accordion his parallel 3:41 · lives is probably a form of other 3:43 · worldly sign called a prodigy so in 3:46 · discussing this it is extremely 3:48 · important to make the distinction 3:49 · between Omens and prodigies in Roman 3:52 · religion and Roman Magic 3:54 · these are both understood to be signs 3:56 · implying the course of future events or 3:58 · hinting that something good or bad May 4:00 · potentially happen and they both usually 4:03 · occurred in public although Omens did 4:05 · not necessarily have to 4:07 · but unlike prodigies Omens are often 4:10 · considered more important to the private 4:12 · individual than to the community as a 4:14 · whole 4:15 · a prodigy is a similar phenomenon but it 4:17 · is on a different level altogether when 4:19 · it comes to Roman religion magic or 4:21 · popular Superstition because it was 4:23 · believed to be a public event 4:26 · what's being described in the text is an 4:28 · amphora a large jug usually designed to 4:31 · hold wine among other substances and 4:33 · plutarch's description of the amphora as 4:35 · being like molten silver is definitely 4:37 · strange but given that prodigies Were 4:40 · Meant to invoke images of things Beyond 4:42 · this world 4:43 · it is on the other hand perhaps not so 4:45 · strange after all this sort of thing 4:47 · because it was a public event and not a 4:49 · private one like an omen means that they 4:52 · had to be addressed publicly 4:54 · it's not entirely clear what if anything 4:56 · was done to address this particular 4:58 · Prodigy but it's not unusual to read in 5:00 · Roman sources about people experiencing 5:02 · Panic during events like an eclipse when 5:05 · siding with what was written in 5:06 · prophetic texts like The Sibling books 5:08 · kept in the temple of Jupiter in Rome 5:10 · prodigies were taken as signs of divine 5:13 · anger and usually required some sort of 5:15 · monstrous level of atonement like human 5:17 · sacrifice 5:19 · unfortunately for this particular 5:21 · Prodigy recorded in Plutarch 5:23 · this is really all that can be said for 5:25 · certain about it that is that it was a 5:28 · prodigy his description fits the theme 5:30 · of Romans believing that fantastic or 5:32 · bizarre events happened just prior to 5:34 · more natural although no less drastic 5:36 · events such as a bloody battle that took 5:39 · place that day between the forces of the 5:41 · colas and mythritates if nothing else 5:43 · this was a sign of the horror and 5:46 · bloodshed to come
I make my own fun.
Excellent opportunity to apply Occam’s Razor.
A flying object they were unable to identify? Sure why not? \snicker
A floater in his left eye.
De world still be spinning or so they say.
Enjoy your allotted time.
Ezekiel saw a wheel... Then again, maybe he was just schizophrenic.
There is a theory that Earthlings are the misfits of another planet brought/exiled here, and checked up on occasionally by the home planet.
Well, some people I’ve met, I can believe it... ;^)
We think alike. :^)
There is a theory that Earthlings are the misfits of another planet brought/exiled here, and checked up on occasionally by the home planet.
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Had not heard that theory - interesting - I wrote something about the reason and origin of that idea without knowing about this.
And so Clown World was born...
I am a very senior citizen, and I heard about this theory decades ago. To me, it makes sense.
Interesting story from “plutarik”, but I wonder what “mythrough deities” would have thought of the depiction? Certainly, “Lucius lascinius the Cullis” was okay with it.
🤔
Like the penal colony origins of Australia?
No. Australia just got “criminals” like starving people who stole a loaf of bread.
We got the “criminals” and the residents of Bedlam...
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