Posted on 05/31/2023 7:46:30 AM PDT by Red Badger
Nah, they have a shawl with no provenance that someone found in an attic and they have just decided it might have belonged to one of the victims.
Thank God for great police work and up to date technology...
That's why you puncture the guts etc. a bunch of times, so only bubbles go up. Err, or so I've been told...
“...washed up on the beach a few days later even thouh he was weighted down with concrete blocks.”
Another reason why a wood chipper is a handy tool.
I never go on a killing spree without one.
Headless Body Found in Topless Bar, serving bottomless drinks.
There was a case where the husband killed his wife, put her in the freezer, and used a wood chipper to dispose of her body early in the morning during a snow storm from a bridge. A witness drove by. He used a credit card to rent the chipper in the relevant time period. The police did a systematic search of the river and seived out remains of bones from the wife. They found portions of some pieces of her skeleton that indicated an unsurvivable wound. The husband was convicted of capital murder.
“You don’t think there are any shady doctors out there?”
I believe I already covered that in my comment:
“I suppose you might find some shady doctor somewhere who might not worry about the provenance of an organ, but it’s not likely a shady doctor would be skilled enough to do a heart transplant.”
“Also, don’t you think there could be an underground trade of organs, taken legally and illegally? And, a victim’s body could have been kept ‘alive’ long enough for the organs to be viable, and then the body disposed of in the forest?”
It’s possible, but it doesn’t seem anywhere close to the most likely scenario. If I were a detective it would certainly be low on the totem pole of theories to investigate.
“Why remove all parts of the body that could lead to identification of the body, if it was just going to be a murder and nobody could be id’d as the killer?”
As I said in another comment, that leads me to believe the killer probably knew the victim, and so would be a suspect if the victim was identified. That’s the more common explanation for why a killer would take great lengths to hide the identity of the victim.
“Why not?”
I’m sorry but if I have to explain to you why that scenario wouldn’t be the most likely, it’s not worth my trouble to type it out.
According to another news story:
“Through improved DNA technology and genealogical research, investigators identified the body as Jefferey Douglas Kimzy. No one ever reported Kimzy as missing.”
Supposedly the DNA match with the victim’s descendant was 99.99%, IIRC.
I can’t speak to the accuracy of the Mitochondrial DNA match as that suppoosedly casts a wider net.
Of course, they could always just be lying. Wouldn’t be the first time that happened on tv.
“Supposedly the DNA match with the victim’s descendant was 99.99%, IIRC.”
The problem is there is no provenance. Someone could have found a descendant of the person they wanted to connect it to, obtained some DNA and then just contaminated the thing themselves. There’s no way to know. That’s why we have rules for evidence in court.
Sure, there is no living person at risk of being falsely punished here, so maybe we can play a little fast and loose with standards of evidence. But if you play this loose, then the evidence still becomes meaningless.
Well, I’ll give you just two reasons that make it seem highly unlikely, then I’m done.
1) You can’t just pick a random person to murder and take their heart for a transplant. You’d have to somehow pick a compatible donor. Which means essentially you’d have to murder one of the person’s close relatives; a daughter, son, sister or brother. That’s the only way you’re guaranteed to pick someone who is likely to be compatible.
2) Say we forget all these problems and somehow your organ transplant scenario is plausible. Why remove the spleen? The only time spleens are usually transplanted is when they are part of a “multivisceral graft”, which usually means they are transplanted along with other organs in the digestive system, like intestines, liver, stomach or pancreas. Yet none of those organs were removed. So we can rule that out. Thus the spleen removal would seem inexplicable under this scenario.
The victim was likely known by the perpetrator(s),and they were only looking for the heart. The criminals likely also knew about the person having a compatible heart and blood type. The spleen I never mentioned, but who knows that they had in mind?
I’m not a doctor, and I don’t play one on TV. I’m just observing a likely scenario, which is not that far out of the question.
Most likely............ shouts ‘Roll Tide!’.
My adopted son had his genealogy checked and found a cousin that also had been adopted was living in Minnesota.
First problem he made was using a credit card to rent the chipper. Cash is KING!
Never, EVER dispose of remains in such a public manner! Chip’em, bag’em and dispose of in small bags spread over multiple locations.
An alternative would be to dig a small pit, place the remains in and burn the hell out of them. Cover, camouflage and never return.
This guy was an amateur playing Big Time.
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