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It’s a Weird Time to Be a Doomsday Prepper
The Atlantic ^

Posted on 05/28/2023 2:43:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway

If you’re looking for a reason the world will suddenly end, it’s not hard to find one—especially if your job is to convince people they need to buy things to prepare for the apocalypse. “World War III, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Joe Biden—you know, everything that’s messed up in the world,” Ron Hubbard, the CEO of Atlas Survival Shelters, told me. His Texas-based company sells bunkers with bulletproof doors and concrete walls to people willing to shell out several thousand—and up to millions—of dollars for peace of mind about potential catastrophic events. Lately, interest in his underground bunkers has been booming. “When the war broke out in Ukraine, my phone was ringing every 45 seconds for about two weeks,” he said.

Many of his clients work in tech: Although the prepper movement in America spans the upper and middle classes, the left and the right, Silicon Valley has in recent years become its epicenter. In his book Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires, Douglas Rushkoff delves into what he calls “The Mindset”—the idea among Silicon Valley doomsday preppers that “winning” means earning enough money to escape the damage that befalls everyone else. In 2018, Bloomberg reported that seven tech entrepreneurs had purchased bunkers in New Zealand. And a 2016 New Yorker profile of Sam Altman quoted the OpenAI CEO as saying he had “guns, gold, potassium iodide, antibiotics, batteries, water, gas masks from the Israeli Defense Force, and a big patch of land in Big Sur I can fly to” in the event of super-contagious viruses, nuclear war, and AI “that attacks us.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: fubar; prepper; preppers; shtf
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To: nickcarraway

I would love to see some city tech worker survive a day without their cell phone. Then give them a cow and a knife and say, “that’s all you have to eat for the next two months.


41 posted on 05/28/2023 6:42:09 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: DeplorablePaul

That is what I always wondered...plus...keeping watch if a bunch of elites all head south...to N Zealand???


42 posted on 05/28/2023 6:46:04 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: nickcarraway; Pollard
Part of FReeper pollard home page:
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43 posted on 05/28/2023 7:20:52 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve got the best prepper product on the market, and I’ll send you one free:

The Bible.


44 posted on 05/28/2023 7:22:13 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Kartographer

“No amount of prepping can guarantee survival but no preparations will guarantee misery, failure and death or you can add to the numbers of those who will rob and kill because they did nothing. I guess its up to each of us to decide how we wish to die. You can die trying to provide and protect your family of you can die robbing and kill others. Up to how you wish to meet your maker.”

If, in a SHTF situation, you ran out of food but you know your neighbor still has some, and the selfish bastard won’t share, are you going to let your family starve or are you going to try to get his food?


45 posted on 05/28/2023 7:35:44 PM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener

That’s why I prepare so my plan isn’t too rob and murder those who who made the effort to prepare.


46 posted on 05/28/2023 8:26:49 PM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I would be concerned about living in southern Arizona in the summertime with an extended power outage. Without AC or big swamp coolers you’d better find some Anasazi caves. It IS very expensive to power AC with a whole house generator or huge solar bank.

I live next to the Columbia River, it can get hot here, too (120°F a few years ago), but cool downs are a half mile away. We’ve got our own problems with volcanoes and earthquakes, though (although not so much locally unless Jellystone goes off and then it’s curtains for all of us).


47 posted on 05/28/2023 8:39:39 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Owen

What happens when some post WWIII invaders show up to pillage some mutton? Is New Zealand going to be able to fight ‘em off?


48 posted on 05/28/2023 8:45:23 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: steve86

There is an old mission church with three foot thick stone walls that is cool year round near Tucson. We do have solar, but no backup battery (came with the house). The canal runs half a mile near our house. I can take the heat, and children are pretty acclimated. If we could even go two hours north to Flagstaff, the elevation brings the temperature down considerably.


49 posted on 05/28/2023 8:47:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: daniel1212

How I survived a year of SHTF in 90s Bosnia
Posted on November 6, 2014 by PrepHole Contributor I believe this is a reprint of Selco Begovi How I survived a year of SHTF in 90s Bosnia Can you ping the list?


50 posted on 05/28/2023 9:06:08 PM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yes, I left out the word ‘battery’ in front of bank.

How about Show Low as a refuge from heat? Doesn’t seem like a particularly ‘showy’ or fancy place but that may be just what you need. I would like to visit in summer.


51 posted on 05/28/2023 9:09:48 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86

We have lived in Phoenix Metro for nearly five years, but have only been to Tucson, Flagstaff, the Grand Canyon and Globe. We just haven’t had a reason or resources to explore much. We WOULD like to go to London Bridge, however.


52 posted on 05/28/2023 9:13:38 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Kartographer

https://prephole.com/surviving-a-year-of-shtf-in-90s-bosnia-war-selco-forum-thread-6265/

SELCO!!


53 posted on 05/28/2023 9:37:09 PM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: suthener

One only has to look at what happened in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina passed through in order to know what life in the US will be like post-collapse.


54 posted on 05/29/2023 5:08:00 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Kartographer

“That’s why I prepare so my plan isn’t too rob and murder those who who made the effort to prepare.”

I know you are a prepper; I’ve read your posts over the years. I don’t mean any disrespect, but if the answer to my question is not, “I’ll do whatever it takes for me and my family to survive”, you don’t have the proper mind set to survive and someone else will probably end up enjoying your preps.


55 posted on 05/29/2023 5:18:43 AM PDT by suthener
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To: suthener
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mark 8:36
56 posted on 05/29/2023 7:37:43 AM PDT by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: griffin

2 weeks underground and you be styling

Naa it’s all a mater of adjusting


57 posted on 05/29/2023 7:50:39 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: ealgeone

anything made by man can be overcome

If so wonder what going to be done with Chinas 2000 miles of tunnels.


58 posted on 05/29/2023 7:52:36 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: nickcarraway

Doomsday Prepper

The last one that says I warned ya then digs a hole for you.

Better safe then sorry even China has 2000 or more miles of tunnels for a reason.


59 posted on 05/29/2023 9:27:50 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Kartographer

“For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mark 8:36”

Okay, not getting into a theological battle. I’m unarmed. You have posted some very informative prepper posts. I appreciate that. Good luck!


60 posted on 05/29/2023 9:34:34 AM PDT by suthener
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