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Weekly Garden Thread - May 20-26, 2023 [Bird Chirping Weather Edition]
May 20, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 05/20/2023 6:49:21 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
10 Insect-Eating Birds To Attract To Your Garden


21 posted on 05/20/2023 8:30:22 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thank you Diana!


22 posted on 05/20/2023 8:31:27 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: FamiliarFace

A friend of mine discovered that sprinkling diatomaceous earth on the nest and baby birds increases their survival rate. The DE kills bird mites and other insects, she said blowflies, that can kill the babies.


23 posted on 05/20/2023 8:32:51 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks, Pete!


24 posted on 05/20/2023 8:57:16 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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25 posted on 05/20/2023 9:09:04 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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26 posted on 05/20/2023 9:11:06 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

That’s how you tell with peaches, but it’s when the squirrels start eating them.

At least the peaches will ripen in the house. Not so with blueberries and raspberries. A green blueberry is not half bad but I wouldn’t eat a bowlful.

A couple years the nesting Coopers hawks solved the berry and bird problem. So would my cats if I let them out.

I do plant for hummingbirds. Right now the native honeysuckle is blankets of bloom.


27 posted on 05/20/2023 9:32:13 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: metmom

I never knew this! Thanks!


28 posted on 05/20/2023 9:38:45 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What brand is that with the TM by the different kinds?


29 posted on 05/20/2023 9:42:45 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

I wish I had any kind of fruit tree here in my yard, or edible nuts, even. That would be a new adventure for me.


30 posted on 05/20/2023 10:07:40 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: FamiliarFace

Besides the fig tree, we have a pear tree and several citrus trees, but never get any fruit from any of them. Plenty of mesquite beans, which are supposed to be edible, but I’ve never tried them.

The Sonoran Desert is generally not a great place for fruit trees.


31 posted on 05/20/2023 10:14:54 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: FamiliarFace

I tried building bluebird houses over the winter as we have many down here. Mr.Bluebird must be carrying a tape measure with him because all are unoccupied.


32 posted on 05/20/2023 10:20:56 AM PDT by waterhill (Stop waiting for the right time, time is not waiting for you.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

For all you “happy gardeners” out there - I haven’t heard this in ages & it made me smile:

Garden Song ~ David Mallett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRO2_S1rdSs

Inch by inch, row by row
Gonna make this garden grow
All it takes is a rake and a hoe
And a piece of fertile ground
And inch by inch, and row by row
Someone bless these seeds I sow
Someone warm them from below
Till the rain comes tumblin’ down

And pullin’ weeds and pickin’ stones
Man is made of dreams and bones
Feel the need to grow my own
‘Cause the time is close at hand
And rain for grain, sun and rain
Find my way in nature’s chain
And tune my body and my brain
To the music from the land

Inch by inch and row by row
Gonna make this garden grow
All it takes is a rake and a hoe
And a piece of fertile ground
And inch by inch, and row by row
Someone bless these seeds I sow
And someone warm them from below
Till the rain comes tumblin’ down

Plant your rows straight and long
Temper them with prayer and song
And mother earth will make you strong
If you give her love and care
An old crow watchin’ hungrily
From his perch in yonder tree
And in my garden I’m as free
As that feathered thief up there

Inch by inch and row by row
Gonna make this garden grow
All it takes is a rake and a hoe
And a piece of fertile ground
And inch by inch, and row by row
Someone bless these seeds I sow
And someone warm them from below
Till the rain comes tumblin’ down


33 posted on 05/20/2023 10:43:26 AM PDT by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: waterhill

We have several different Bluebird houses, and the one that they choose most commonly is this Peterson style house.

https://www.dutchcrafters.com/Amish-Poly-Peterson-Blue-Bird-House/p/54509

Tips for building your own Peterson style here. https://feltmagnet.com/crafts/bluebird-house-slant-front

They’ve also built nests in this one every now and again.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/10-875-in-H-Cedar-Wood-Variety-Nesting-Box-Bird-House/1000184213

This one is pretty similar to the third one that they’ve used sometimes.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/NewTechWood-Nature-s-Friend-Recycled-Composite-Birdhouse-Feeder-Bird-BH/206485522

We also have one on a post that we bought from Wilds Birds Unlimited, but the House Sparrows fight for that one, so the bluebirds never choose it. I keep it regularly cleaned out so the sparrows never lay eggs in it.


34 posted on 05/20/2023 12:18:01 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: waterhill

More tips on where to place the bluebird houses here.

https://bluebirdlandlord.com/where-to-place-a-bluebird-house-the-best-location/

In my yard, the one they pick the most often faces a little bit southeast, and the others, variations of southeast. They only choose one box at a time. I think because mine are too close together.

Our yard is heavily wooded, so these are placed with the woods behind them and the lawn area open in front of them. I can see all of them from our windows, which makes it convenient to see when they begin feeding the babies. Their mealworm feeders are located near out deck, too, so I can refill those quickly and easily. Hope any of this helps.


35 posted on 05/20/2023 1:25:50 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Here we can tell if the figs are ripe when they all drop to the ground at once, making a huge sticky mess - and are immediately descended on by bees and other insects.

Got some new recipes for this year so hope to get ‘em before the birds, insects and inevitable slop to the ground.


36 posted on 05/20/2023 1:56:37 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (What did Socialists use before Candles?..... Electricity)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I want to know where the bees are. Seen none yet, unusual.


37 posted on 05/20/2023 2:54:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Hartley; What part of the desert are you in? Is is down by the Colorado river or up in the mountains?

If there fruit that should work in the desert it would be a fig, provided it has enough water. Tolerates a lot of heat. Note that there are two types of figs, common, and smyrna figs. Common figs do not need a wasp to pollinate them, smyrna figs do. You want common figs.

There is a place called Son Mut Nou, Montserrate in Mallorca. What they do is to give each tree a space that is about 40' x 40' and do not let anything else grow in that area. When They plant they dig down 4 or 5 feet and plant the tree. They cover the roots, and water and it begins to grow. As it gets taller they fill in more of the hole until it is level with the rest of the orchard. They prune it until the limbs are 5-6 feets above the ground. They have rain about 2 months a year, and after that first couple of years they do not water the trees. The tree needs to develop and send out roots to get the water it needs. Here is a video of this fig orchard which looks like a desert!

0:39 / 2:24 Son Mut Nou, Montserrat Pons fig trees

For more information go to "https://www.ourfigs.com/"

38 posted on 05/20/2023 5:03:42 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I’m west of Tucson at about 2100’ elevation. Our fig tree did OK last year in a big pot, though the birds ate the figs, of course. I planted it in the ground in March and am watering it deeply about every 10 days; so far so good, but I’ll have to water a bit more when the heat really gets here. I hope the roots grow outward enough for the tree to thrive. The soil here is really poor, mostly sand/clay and quite hard.

I don’t think it stays cold enough long enough during the winter for most fruit trees to do well.


39 posted on 05/20/2023 5:26:10 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Here is something that might offer some protection for the figs: Put them on before they ripen. Flashing foil might discourage birds. They do not like them. I get dollar store fake 4th of july foil fountains that flash in the breeze.

4"x6" organza bags

Everyone knows about mission figs. There are a lot of other varieties:

https://figbid.com/

Good luck!

40 posted on 05/20/2023 6:39:04 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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