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Berlin was a liberal hotbed of homosexuality and a mecca for cross dressers and transsexuals where the first male-to-female surgery was performed - until the Nazis came to power, new book reveals (2014)
Daily Mail ^ | 11-25-2014 | CAROLINE HOWE

Posted on 05/13/2023 6:49:12 AM PDT by dynachrome

Think Liza Minnelli and Joel Gray in Carberet. Think West Hollywood, Greenwich Village and Provincetown and the Castro, known as hotbeds of homosexuality.

But they are nothing like the uninhibited urban gay sexual scene and vast homosexual subculture that flourished in Berliin under Germany's Weimar Republic.

Sexual experimentation between the same sexes and medical advances of helping genders ‘trapped within the wrong body’ in Germany more than one hundred years ago shaped our understanding of gay identity today.

The city's liberal years - before the rise of Hitler - are detailed in a new book, Gay Berlin.

The science of ‘transsexuality’ was founded in Berlin at the Institute of Sexual Science where the first male-to-female surgery was performed. The words ‘homosexual’ or ‘transvestite’ were German innovations. Male prostitution, homosexual bars and nightclubs, cabarets populated by gay men, lesbians and transsexuals flourished in a wild, incomparable sexual subculture that was exciting yet dangerous.

It was in Berlin where scientists concluded that ‘same sex love was a natural, inborn characteristic and not merely the perversion of a ‘normal’ sexual tendency’, author and scholar Robert Beachy writes in his compelling book, Gay Berlin: Birthplace of a Modern Identity by Knopf Publishers.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; History
KEYWORDS: germany; homos; tranny; weimar
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To: jmacusa
It was Franco or Stalinist Spain.

Had the Stalinists won, the number of murders might have been in the hundreds of thousands or even millions. The Reds were also burning churches, and mass murdering priest and nuns (as the Bolsheviks did wherever they came to power.)

Franco was the better alternative. I believe Pat Buchanan also said as much.

The day might come when the Left becomes so strong in this country that only a rightist "thug" will be able to defeat the Left. Sometimes reality doesn't present you with an ideal alternative.

61 posted on 05/13/2023 10:12:52 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: jmacusa
And Franco wasn't "totalitarian." He was a simple authoritarian strongman.

There was no Franco Youth. No indoctrination camps. He protected private property, and allowed parents and the Church raise children as they saw fit.

62 posted on 05/13/2023 10:15:21 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: ArtDodger

Exactly. Much like today they are the left’s useful idiot thugs. And the idiots, like the ones in the 1930s will be the first to be purged, then comes the college professors, and news people. Morons never read history.


63 posted on 05/13/2023 10:28:30 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: Angelino97
Did you live under the man? He DID establish concentration camps, extrajudicial executions, torture , religious persecution , forced labor and murdered some 200,000 people. Some estimates place the number he killed at 400,000 . Franco tolerated only one political party and that was his party, the Fascists! Do some research. We're free people here on this site, we have no love for dictators .

Authoritarianism and totalitarianism are two sides to the same coin.

64 posted on 05/13/2023 10:35:02 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa
When I was a young lad, my parents took me on a tour of Europe. We visited relatives behind the Iron Curtain. I could feel the oppressive atmosphere.

Later, we visited Austria, Switzerland, France, Italy, and Spain. I could feel the difference. I didn't feel any oppressive atmosphere in any of those nations, including Spain (Franco was old, but still alive).

65 posted on 05/13/2023 10:40:31 AM PDT by Angelino97
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I think Hitler tolerated “masculine” homosexuality for a time, at least. The head of the SA (Brown Shirts) was Ernst Roehm, a notoriously open homosexual. However, once Hitler had what he wanted, he killed Roehm and crushed the Brown Shirts.


66 posted on 05/13/2023 10:49:42 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Angelino97

As I said and I mean this respectfully but do some real and unbiased research on Franco.

He was a thug.


67 posted on 05/13/2023 10:54:07 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Wallace T.

Did you chatgpt that?


68 posted on 05/13/2023 11:05:45 AM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: jmacusa

Franco himself wasn’t a Fascist. He was a Catholic traditionalist. The Fascists were revolutionaries. Franco’s government, however, was partially Fascist from 1936 to 1944 because some of the ministers belonged to the Falange, which was a Fascist group. Franco had Falangist ministers because during the Civil War he needed Italian and German support and later - during WWII - he didn’t want Spain to be attacked by the Germans. After 1944 the Falange lost all influence and was only kept for ceremonial purposes.

I recommend reading some books by Stanley Payne, a non-leftist historian who wrote extensively on Spain and Fascism.


69 posted on 05/13/2023 11:06:02 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Wallace T.

Did you chatgpt that?


70 posted on 05/13/2023 11:09:42 AM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist
There is a historical irony here. Franco bought Spain 36 years of peace as the tensions of the Spanish Civil War abated due to the deaths of the participants. It took that long for Spaniards of one stripe to live among Spaniards of the other stripe.

But as soon as Franco died, Spain picked up where it left off in 1936 in terms of social change. It's leading the way in Europe for sexual perversions of different kinds.

71 posted on 05/13/2023 11:12:14 AM PDT by Publius
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To: jmacusa

The Civil War in Spain was a brutal business. Both sides committed atrocities, but if the Commies had won, Spain would have been ruined and much more people would have died.


72 posted on 05/13/2023 11:14:30 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Angelino97
The day might come when the Left becomes so strong in this country that only a rightist "thug" will be able to defeat the Left.

The Left has been loudly proclaiming that Trump is that thug - they are going to be in for an ugly surprise if Trump's populism proves insufficient to rein them in.

73 posted on 05/13/2023 11:22:40 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: DuncanWaring

They’re the freaks who came up with the idea that someone else should pay your doctor bill!


74 posted on 05/13/2023 11:24:56 AM PDT by gr8eman (Stupid should hurt!!)
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To: Angelino97
You're right.

There was a year in the mid-1990s when one of the major networks (can't remember which one) promised viewers that 199x was going to be the "gayest" TV season ever.

The Left just kept destroying our culture, a little bit at a time. Look how far they've come since then.
75 posted on 05/13/2023 11:27:04 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: slouper
No. Chatgpt is programmed to spit out the mainstream narrative. Essentially, it will get you the same output as Google or Bing, which I also avoid.
76 posted on 05/13/2023 11:39:38 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Dan in Wichita
You'll recall this iconic cover from 1997:


77 posted on 05/13/2023 11:43:41 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: dynachrome

we already knew blue districts are fascist.

they aren’t America.

America can only be found in red districts these days... and they’re under attack by the left.


78 posted on 05/13/2023 12:03:38 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: jmacusa

There were Jewish Fascists in Italy Musolini disliked the Nazis Antisemitism, but then he started to kiss up to hitler.


79 posted on 05/13/2023 12:07:43 PM PDT by cowboyusa (IT'S TIME TO PLAY COWBOYS AND MARXISTS!)
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To: dynachrome
Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot all precursors of the son of satan. But he will be smashed quickly, and YESHUA will come.
80 posted on 05/13/2023 12:13:04 PM PDT by cowboyusa (IT'S TIME TO PLAY COWBOYS AND MARXISTS!)
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