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Weekly Garden Thread - May 13-19, 2023 [Beneficial Insects Edition]
May 13, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 05/13/2023 6:07:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I dehydrate excess greens...going to try freze drying, too.


81 posted on 05/13/2023 5:35:45 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: goodnesswins

Super easy to make. I don’t use EXACT measurements, but today I picked 8 fat stalks (twist off the stalks you want, cut off the leaves and discard - DO NOT COMPOST - Rhubarb leaves have some bad toxins in them) and then I chopped those up, put them in a saucepan with a little water and about 1/2 C of sugar and 1/2 tsp. of Vanilla extract. If you like it more tart, use less sugar. If using more stalks, add more sugar. Tastes vary.

Cook down over medium heat and ‘smoosh’ the Rhubarb with a spoon as you go. I think it took about 30 minutes for it to turn into a jam-like consistency, which was what I was after.

I taste-tested it just to be sure. ;) Can’t wait for bedtime tonight - a book, a dog or cat on the bed, an open window for a Spring Breeze and a (small!) bowl of Vanilla ice cream with Rhubarb Sauce on top!

It’s the Simple Things in Life that keep us going. ;)


82 posted on 05/13/2023 5:51:41 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FRiends

83 posted on 05/13/2023 5:52:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Ellendra; MomwithHope; Diana in Wisconsin

Thank you all for the tips! I have decided on a place in the ground instead of pots. I know I didn’t have them in the ground over the winter, but they were in my garage over the winter, so maybe those sub freezing temps in there for weeks at a time (central Indiana) were enough to give them a feeling of being “winterized”. As I look at it, this is a free experiment for me. If it doesn’t work, nothing is lost really, and I’ve gained from the knowledge that I will learn. Will report in the fall if anything happened. If not successful this year, I will probably try to overwinter and see what happens next year. Fingers crossed.


84 posted on 05/13/2023 5:59:22 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: Bon of Babble

Oh my! I must live in a bubble! I’ve heard of pets and catalytic converters being stolen. I’ve never heard of plants or fountains. People are nuts and also evil. It makes no sense to me.


85 posted on 05/13/2023 6:01:53 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wonderful, thanks.


86 posted on 05/13/2023 6:25:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: BipolarBob
I was one bale short of straw this year

Oh I've been like that my whole life.

87 posted on 05/14/2023 4:05:45 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m sold on mulch after last year. Mulched the little front yard garden while my buddy went bare soil through that 2 month heat wave. He had to water ever other day while I watered once a week.


88 posted on 05/14/2023 4:14:34 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms out there!

It is a fantastic morning here! We had a big thunderstorm roll through late afternoon yesterday and we got a quarter inch of rain. I did a heavy watering in the morning out at the Garden and then we got the extra rain, so everything is really, really happy this morning. The spaghetti squash looks the best it’s looked since I planted it and my borage has finally perked up with new leaves as has the African Blue basil. I just cut back my sage a week ago which is blooming beautifully and I think I’m going to have to cut it back some more in the next day or so. I’ve never had Sage grow like this plant is growing.

The sky is clear blue, the air is “crispy” & cool as opposed to the mugginess we had all day yesterday. The birds are singing big time and the Robins are in the front field, getting a fairly easy worm meal. Squirrels are out & about - they’re all over the place. The song from Oklahoma keeps running through my mind: Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a beautiful day!”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoCVbt8d_Ho


89 posted on 05/14/2023 5:34:55 AM PDT by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Qiviut

Those zinnias are spectacular!

I’m running late this year due to travel, etc., and didn’t put out the seeds when I should have (two months ago!).

But, my local nursery does carry six-packs of various types of zinnias - maybe I’ll do that today. Here, they will bloom until Thanksgiving.


90 posted on 05/14/2023 5:57:35 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (What did Socialists use before Candles?..... Electricity)
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To: goodnesswins; Pete from Shawnee Mission

Pete has corrected me that you CAN compost the Rhubarb leaves. I never have, but he read (and I looked it up) that the Oxalic Acid in the leaves does NOT transfer to any future food you may grow in that compost.

That stuff is bad for people with Kidney issues, so maybe that’s where it comes from?

I also found a few articles about eating the leaves, but I’ll pass. Maybe Grape leaves? Cabbage leaves? I like food wrapped in them, LOL!

So, compost or not - your choice once your Rhubarb is up and running in a few years. :)


91 posted on 05/14/2023 6:39:53 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: All

92 posted on 05/14/2023 7:16:56 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Qiviut

We’re getting rained on this Mother’s Day, but we need a good soaker. Beau is running a Field Trial today, so he’s none too happy about it.

Mom & Sis are coming out today, so we’ll find ways to entertain ourselves, rainy day or not. :)


93 posted on 05/14/2023 7:23:07 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All
Diana; No no... NOT corrected, just questioned!

I have composted the leaves and have no way to know if there is any affect on my garden.

Hope you...and all the other posters...have a great Mothers Day!

94 posted on 05/14/2023 8:08:58 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 85 degrees expected today. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All
Diana; No, not corrected, just queried.

I had not heard that before and have composted the leaves and have no way to know if there is any affect on my garden!

In any case, I hope you...and all the other posters...have a great Mothers Day!

95 posted on 05/14/2023 8:19:33 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission (6B KS/MO border 85 degrees expected today. )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Nice up to date tagline. :)

Supposed to hit 87 here in E Ctrl MO just South of I-44 and is already 82 and a bit humid.

Weed wacked around the front yard garden. Pulled the carburetor off the push mower, cleaned it out and reinstalled and the mower’s running again.

Got the tractor battery on charge. Needs an alternator. Started this morning but cranked slow. Going to hook up the finish mower to the back and mow the large areas. Then follow up with the push mower and finally the weed wacker.

Made up two gallons of permethrin in a bucket and soaked the legs of a pair of jeans and a pair of socks. Also put some in a spray bottle and soaked a pair of sneakers and pair of boots.

Pushed the spreader with Sevin Granules around on the gravel driveway where no grass is growing. Once I get things mowed I can take a few laps around the house. Driveway that has grass growing through the gravel plus my walking path out back between house and shop/barn. I’m going to put gravel on that path soon to make a circular driveway. Will be nice not having to back in/out and ought to make Fedex/UPS drivers happy. Supposed to rain tonight which will water in the Sevin.

Didn’t think to look for shade cloth or compost at Lowes yesterday. Forgot to grab a couple of mini blinds too. I got distracted in the tool section.

Stopped by Ace on the way back and found some shade cloth in with the tarps. 10’ x 10’ and I didn’t see a price on it. It rung up as $41 so I said no thanks. They didn’t have compost but did have organic raised bed soil that has kelp, alfalfa & bone meal and earthworm castings so that will work in place of compost as a booster when I put the maters in the ground.

Dragged out my Stihl mini-tiller but I don’t like working on those little two-stroke engines so I’m going to drop it off at the dealer and have them get it going. It was given to me non-running. Has compression and seems mechanically ok/intact so I think it just needs a hose kit, primer bulb, spark plug and carb cleaned so it shouldn’t cost much.

Need to get those high tunnel frames welded up so I can have my trailer back that I’m using as 8’ x 20’ workbench for them. Then I’m going to cut some pallets in half to make them 2’ x 4’ and screw them down to the trailer deck to them to make temporary sides for the trailer so I can get a few yards of compost for the high tunnel.

The MO winds seem to have died down for the most part so I should be able to get the frames welded up in the next couple of weeks. Getting them in the ground will be quick. Bracing them, tying them to each other and building end walls will take some time.

Found someone local that has 275 gallon IBC totes for $50 that had vegetable oil in them. Easy enough to clean out. I’m going to use four of them to collect rainwater off the tunnel for watering. Hopefully 1,100 gallons will get me through July & August. Don’t know if I’ll be up and running this Jul/Aug so I might not know until next Summer.

Would be 18 gallons a day x 60 days or 36 every two days or 54 every three days.
Half gallon per plant for 108 plants every three days for two months? Ought to do.


96 posted on 05/14/2023 9:25:39 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Pollard
That's mo-betta. Two layers of window screen. Mid day sun's a little intense for hardening off.

Phone camera decided to focus on the closest thing I guess.

97 posted on 05/14/2023 10:01:17 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Pollard
I’m sold on mulch after last year. Mulched the little front yard garden while my buddy went bare soil through that 2 month heat wave. He had to water ever other day while I watered once a week.

In addition to that, it cuts out 90% of the weeding I have to do.

I lay down either cardboard or landscape fabric between the rows and mulch on top of that. The mulch protects the landscape fabric so you get many more seasons out of it than if it were inn the sun full time.

The cardboard just rots and conditions the soil for the next year.

98 posted on 05/14/2023 9:58:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: metmom
I lay down either cardboard or landscape fabric between the rows and mulch on top of that. The mulch protects the landscape fabric so you get many more seasons out of it than if it were inn the sun full time.

What about Mutual 901 MISE 901 Woven Polypropylene Fabric, 100' Length x 36" Width ?

A brother in Christ gave me a big roll of such. Water goes right thru. But do not use a propane torch to make the holes for plants, and end up with burned fingers. Flammable one it gets burning.

99 posted on 05/15/2023 3:05:49 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

Mine also lets water through but I don’t know what kind it is. I bought it at Sam’s years ago so it’s a lifetime supply of landscape fabric.

I use scissors to cut the holes in.


100 posted on 05/15/2023 4:34:40 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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