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CHit-Chat | Help requested. I heard on a radio news spot that the Law that made Trumps conviction possible today is a brand new NY state law.
05/09/2023 | Self

Posted on 05/09/2023 5:32:14 PM PDT by know.your.why

I have done a quick internet search engine dig and didn't get what I was hoping for. Ok...I know that I heard on the radio today that the Law that made it possible for a jury to award E. Jean Carroll todays win was a brand new law and only been on the books for less than a year. What that means is...they created this new law JUST so they could get trump. I need to find what law was used as the basis for ruling against trump today. Can some nice FReeper please help me? Thanks!


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KEYWORDS: billofattainder; fjb; harassment; law; lawfare; newyork; nyc; persecution; trump
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To: JJBookman

“No ex post facto laws” We’ll see what happens next.

That is may take on it too. But you wouldn’t believe how many people come out of the digital walls here to disagree with me.
These limitations laws are just as much a law as any other law. Then there are those here who think that ex-post facto only applies to the federal government. They can’t even think about what would happen if state and local government could just change any law and apply it to the past. We have some real brainwashed people even here.


21 posted on 05/09/2023 6:04:37 PM PDT by Revel
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To: know.your.why

The entire democrat party has been acting in unison towards the goal of destroying Trump.


22 posted on 05/09/2023 6:13:29 PM PDT by I want the USA back (No one is assigned sex at birth. One's sex is noted and recorded. My pronouns Haha, hehe, hoho, hoo )
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To: Sacajaweau

I haven’t been watching this too closely...

How many more of these ‘Trump did something but I can’t recall the date that Trump ruined my life’ trials on the docket in NY?


23 posted on 05/09/2023 6:17:40 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: JJBookman

This is what I posted earlier on Facebook, another freeper’s comment that sums it up:

“The jury’s logic is weird. She accuses him of rape. He calls her a liar and a few other choice names. They jury says, well, yea...you didn’t rape her but you owe her money for all the mean things you said about her after she accused you of this thing you didn’t do.”

By the way, what is the law everyone keeps talking about? If it’s the removal of the statute of limitations on rape, that was being discussed years ago. So they never did it, until now? I remember it from the 2002 state senate race in NY.


24 posted on 05/09/2023 6:34:47 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Sarcazmo

Yep, the Get Trump Law was bought and paid for by the billionaire Linkedin founder, Reid Hoffman. I would bet he spread millions around the politicians to get the law and buy the right judge. Hoffman reportedly hates Trump and probably came up with this plan to stop Trump.


25 posted on 05/09/2023 6:37:02 PM PDT by Colo9250 ( )
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To: firebrand; JJBookman

Never mind. I see it in comment 13.


26 posted on 05/09/2023 6:39:37 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Sarcazmo

Yep, the Get Trump Law was bought and paid for by the billionaire Linkedin founder, Reid Hoffman. I would bet he spread millions around the politicians to get the law and buy the right judge. Hoffman reportedly hates Trump and probably came up with this plan to stop Trump.


27 posted on 05/09/2023 6:40:30 PM PDT by Colo9250 ( )
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To: Revel
Then there are those here who think that ex-post facto only applies to the federal government. They can’t even think about what would happen if state and local government could just change any law and apply it to the past.

The US Constitution is very clear that states cannot pass ex post facto laws. (Art. I, sec. 10, cl. 1). But SCOTUS held way back in 1798 (Calder v. Bull) that only criminal laws can be ex post facto laws; the prohibition does not apply to civil laws.

28 posted on 05/09/2023 7:20:16 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: know.your.why

He wasn’t convicted. He was found liable. Big difference


29 posted on 05/09/2023 7:29:02 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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Maybe Trump wasn’t assaulting her but feared an alien invasion of the earth. Just going by “what she was wearing” it looks that way.

Seriously though, I suspect the only thing for which Trump is liable is not being a globalist.


30 posted on 05/09/2023 7:32:59 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (In leftspeak, "disproven false claim" means fact. "Intolerance" means revulsion. "Progress" =failure)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
But SCOTUS held way back in 1798 (Calder v. Bull) that only criminal laws can be ex post facto laws; the prohibition does not apply to civil laws.

So the state can't imprison you but it can work with a non-governmental entity to impoverish you. Nice!

Stare decisis is indeed for suckers.

31 posted on 05/09/2023 7:51:24 PM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: know.your.why

2 things. The lawsuit was almost entirely funded by an anti-Trump billionaire. Yes, NY passed a law especially for this, that allowed the lawsuit to happen.


32 posted on 05/09/2023 7:58:59 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: know.your.why

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-signs-adult-survivors-act


33 posted on 05/09/2023 7:59:07 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: know.your.why

There are a lot of editorial writers in the conservative magazines I read who talk down about Trump. Speaking only for myself, 4 years of Trump was great, money wise and for my psyche, etc. I’d like another 4 year term for The Don and I will certainly give him my vote.


34 posted on 05/09/2023 9:51:15 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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To: CaptainK

Just like they hastily changed the Voting laws under Covid.......


35 posted on 05/09/2023 10:15:15 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Dems loot & riot -called "protesting" by media. Repub's protest -called "looting & rioting" by media)
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To: Sacajaweau

There’s a reason for the statute of limitations...to stop cra* like what Carroll is pulling. And I’d say...the law is void on its’ face.


36 posted on 05/10/2023 6:49:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: know.your.why

I believe Hochul extended the SOL on these cases so this could be prosecuted.


37 posted on 05/10/2023 6:53:05 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Lurking Libertarian

SCOTUS are communist’s who don’t care about the constitution. Just because they give a ruling does not make them right. Look how many times they change there own rulings whenever it suits them.

So you think it is OK to financially destroy you based on a law that did not exist when you did something. Destroy your reputation as well. That it is OK as long as you can’t go to jail for it. Use a little common sense. The founders didn’t put in any such exceptions.... A crooked court did.


38 posted on 05/10/2023 8:13:17 AM PDT by Revel
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To: 1Old Pro
I believe Hochul extended the SOL on these cases so this could be prosecuted.

I believe that you're correct.

The Government...manipulating the justice system...in order to attack a political opponent. Whats wrong with this picture?
39 posted on 05/10/2023 1:04:28 PM PDT by know.your.why
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To: Revel
The founders didn’t put in any such exceptions.... A crooked court did.

The SCOTUS decision limiting the ex post facto clause to criminal cases was decided unanimously in 1798, pretty darn close to the founding. No one at the time protested the decision as crooked or incorrect.

40 posted on 05/11/2023 1:36:17 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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