Posted on 05/02/2023 7:35:21 PM PDT by Jonty30
Chinese battery maker CATL says it has cutting-edge technology able to surpass limits that have held back battery development worldwide, ushering in a new era of electrification for passenger aircraft. These are bold claims that, if they come to fruition, will shake up battery technology as we know it.
Battery density signifies a key metric in creating a lithium-ion battery that’s both powerful and light enough for versatile applications, such as an aircraft. Current understanding of technology has the densest lithium-ion batteries generally hovering below 300 Watt hours per kilogram (Wh/kg), but CATL says their new battery boasts a 500 Wh/kg density. This is especially promising for use in aviation due to weight considerations.
“CATL’s condensed battery leverages highly conductive biomimetic condensed state electrolytes to construct a micron-level self-adaptive net structure that can adjust the interactive forces among the chains,” the company says, “thus improving the conductive performance of the cells and, in turn, the efficiency of lithium ion transporting while boosting stability of the microstructure.”
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Harbour Air, which carries over 500,000 passengers on 30,000 commercial flights annually, plans to go all electric.
Any claim that comes out of communist China, should be taken with a grain of salt. As the old saying goes: “Don’t take any wooden nickels.”
They can do what they want, as it’s their money.
I wish them well, but I can’t see anybody making money on one 1/2 hour flight/day.
The liberal hope is that forcing changes will lead to new discoveries. That’s the basis of this mass forced change. I don’t think it will work. We will be living in an Atlas shrugged world, where everything only works 1/3 as well as it used to.
“I wish them well, but I can’t see anybody making money on one 1/2 hour flight/day.”
They have over eight hundred flights a day and will save tons on fuel and maintenance.
Until the electrical rates rise and the state government they operate starts taxing by the mile.
I don’t have a problem with researching renewables and alternatives. I don’t mind spending billions of dollars to find the optimized place where we can get the most value from solar or wind or wave or whatever. I’m not philosophically opposed to that.
I just don’t want a forced adoption before its ready for prime time. The USSR and China are full of graveyards of technology and pollution where the government forced the hand of the people to adopt alternatives before they were ready.
Forcing the hand doesn’t work.
Also, they make over 800 flights/day with planes that use hydrocarbon fuels. They are not going to make 800 flights/day with planes that can fly once or twice/day for thirty minutes and then spend hours charging.
Their prices are going to reflect their new reality.
I’m not dense enough to ride in one......
Maintenance; maybe. Fuel; definitely not - they're burning coal at a power plant instead of Jet A in the engine.
Add in more frequent motor replacement costs as salt spray and the copper in the coils don't mix well.
Also, net energy loss from the plant to the plane.
There’s always enough “dumb bunny money” around that will happily invest in “battery magic” to justify an enterprise pushing vaporware like this.
Would enough batteries in the sky exploding cause an EMP?
Question: how long does in-flight refueling take for an electric plane?
PS: this article is basically unicorn farts ...
No thanks, if I see a plane with Duracell on it, I’ll take a car. 🤓
Who ever said, “Made in China - I gotta trust my life to that!”😎
If you track a Southwest airplane, you’ll see that it makes anywhere up to 4-6 flights per day. Can’t see that with batteries unless they’re swapping them out.
And, the American Left is dense enough to believe them!
I’m no pilot or physicist, but it seems to me that: a lot of emphasis on flying a plane is placed on weight and it’s distribution, batteries are heavy, big batteries are very heavy, and if a flight wishes to carry any meaningful cargo it will be greatly reduced in proportion to the weight of those batteries. I’ve read some things about the weight of the batteries for ev’s and specifically the weights of the batteries, which is considerable, required for the 18 wheelers and they are not attempting to lift anything off the ground. Is my reasoning faulty?
There are restrictions on bring lithium batteries on planes, aren’t there. I thought they had an annoying tendency to start on fire on planes.
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