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Combustion engines will continue after 2035, but only with synthetic fuels
autogear ^ | 3/27/23 | Redacção

Posted on 03/27/2023 9:22:59 AM PDT by central_va

The European Union and Germany have reached an agreement that will allow combustion engines to continue to be used in new cars after 2035, but only with synthetic fuels, the 'e-fuels'.

The agreement reached will allow the countries of the European Union to approve the Euro 7 standard, presented by Brussels, which aims to accelerate the fight against climate change in Europe, with a drastic reduction in all harmful emissions into the atmosphere.

Once the new standard is approved, the European Commission will present a regulation that will allow companies in the automotive sector to continue to produce cars with combustion engines, provided that they use carbon-neutral fuels.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: bs; eu; fuel; ice; synth
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To: spokeshave
I could install one of those on my truck bed...anyone have any plans for a wood/gas convertor....Thanks in advance.

Google has lots of suggestions, including how-to videos and print articles.

Here's but one:

https://www.motherearthnews.com/sustainable-living/green-transportation/wood-gas-truck-zmaz81mjzraw/

41 posted on 03/27/2023 10:53:56 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: PIF

And by using corn they’ll probably need to deforest the rest of the world just to produce enough if even that. Genius!! (Insert massive sarcasm)


42 posted on 03/27/2023 10:53:56 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Yo-Yo

43 posted on 03/27/2023 10:55:50 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: central_va

I’d always heard/read rumors/speculation that the Germans used synthetic fuels during WWII to keep their vehicles rolling. And that the Allies, supposedly, clamped down on the secret to keep the world dependent on bio-fuels.

So, if all that were true... Are TPTB finally relenting and letting the secret of cheap, synthetic fuels out by making them expensive and difficult to get in their brave new world? :-/


44 posted on 03/27/2023 10:57:46 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: central_va

They can make gasoline through chemical reactions with atmospheric CO2 and water. Vegetable oil used in diesel engines is a good candidate also. Just like Rudolf Diesel used peanut oil in his first engines.


45 posted on 03/27/2023 11:02:47 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: BradyLS
I’d always heard/read rumors/speculation that the Germans used synthetic fuels during WWII to keep their vehicles rolling. And that the Allies, supposedly, clamped down on the secret to keep the world dependent on bio-fuels.

The Germans were burning wood (bio) while diesel and gasoline are derived from abiotic oil. (Calling them "fossil fuels" is an intentional misnomer used to sell the lie that there is a limited amount).

The wood fuels are less efficient, before even getting into scarcity in some regions and difficulty storing them. Coal is efficient although susceptible to humidity and can only be piped in short distances in a slurry.

Pipelines are the most efficient means of transporting liquid and vapor fuels. Tanker ships are far more efficient than rail cars or trucks but still have limitations.

46 posted on 03/27/2023 11:05:18 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Bayard

And what do they mean by synthetic fuels that are carbon neutral?

Crops are grown using fertilizer that comes from petroleum and phosphate, both considered by liberals / consensus science to be non-renewable “fossil fuels”.


47 posted on 03/27/2023 11:11:20 AM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: Stingray51
Crops are grown using fertilizer that comes from petroleum and phosphate, both considered by liberals / consensus science to be non-renewable “fossil fuels”.

Great point.

48 posted on 03/27/2023 11:15:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

> wood alcohol?

Whatever is determined to be the most expensive and inconvenient. Because reasons.


49 posted on 03/27/2023 11:16:03 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: central_va
Bring back thunder road!!


50 posted on 03/27/2023 11:20:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: adorno

“12 years away is a long time for people to realize the error of their ways. “

With respect to nuclear power it is taking much longer than 12 years for them to realize the error of their ways.


51 posted on 03/27/2023 12:17:12 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: central_va

e-Fuel is euro-code word for hydrogen mixed with CO2 previously captured from the twos-here. Of course it is drastically inefficient but then it isn’t supposed to work well.


52 posted on 03/27/2023 2:07:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Yo-Yo; T.B. Yoits
WWI, the gas car:


53 posted on 03/27/2023 3:26:44 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Soul of the South
With respect to nuclear power it is taking much longer than 12 years

The infrastructure for oil drilling can be kept in place, just in case, and that doesn't take 12 years to get restarted. Even coal can take a lot less than 12 years to get going. And natural gas is always around.

The infrastructure for 'renewable' will always be lacking in enough production to handle thw world's needs, and it would be unreliable.
54 posted on 03/27/2023 5:02:00 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

I don’t disagree with you. Unfortunately the left has simply decided to mandate the shift from fossil to renewables and leave the details to the private sector which will be blamed for not delivering.


55 posted on 03/27/2023 5:38:14 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: central_va

This is a story about the EU plans for ICE vehicles and synth fuels...”

I read the impetus was coming from Porsche.


56 posted on 03/27/2023 5:54:56 PM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...................."Who is Ray Epps?" should be overstamped on every piece of currency.)
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To: central_va

Oil is as natural as trees.

It will take three gallons of fuel to produce 1 gallon but hey. It is government maffs so they will make up for it in volume.


57 posted on 03/27/2023 6:07:45 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: MeganC
”You know what they call a gallon in France?”
58 posted on 03/28/2023 8:19:04 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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